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		<title>By: tommymccarthy</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/10/11/when-the-people-lead/#comment-16537</link>
		<dc:creator>tommymccarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 03:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I merely wanted to congratulate &quot;dsws&quot; on his assistance to the &quot;Occupy Boston&quot; protesters.
What an excellent choice of words......they should put that in the Constitution or something...don&#039;t you think?

Today is Monday....nearly a week after this posting of Chris&#039;......There have been several posts since...all of which I have read...(as always)...either here or on the old venue.

I chose to respond to THIS one in particular for two reasons:

First of all, it seemed a good spot to (possibly) &quot;get a word in edgewise&quot; (as it were).

More importantly, I find &quot;OWS&quot; to be (potentially) the most important political development since the fall of &quot;the wall&quot;.....and (I say with great SADNESS) the candidacy of Barack Obama in 2008.

The people are YEARNING for a way to express themselves....and are NOT finding it through the electoral process.....and likely will not..... as Obama&#039;s candidacy (one thing)...and administration (quite another) SO graphically point out.

A veteran of the anti-war movement......

Well, it&#039;s at this point I always &quot;reign in&quot; my impulses....and I do so again.....and advise others to do the same. The internet is NOT anonymous after all.

I WILL say this....direct, and personal action...in LARGE numbers....with a VERY high degree of personal commitment to actual change (I mean beyond chanting &quot;Yes we can&quot; and writing a check)....is what will be required ...IF it is not already too late.

On the TV box just tonight:

 I watched young people all over the WORLD joining the struggle.....
I watched ONE Iraq veteran stand down a phlanx of NYPD clearly ITCHING to join their Chicago 68&#039; forbearers in mayhem against fellow members of the working class........using nothing but his voice and his MORAL SUPERIORITY

I also watched Tom Hayden spout the sort of false equivilancies that would make a younger Tom hide his face in shame.(I hid MINE on his behalf)

I saw what were described as &quot;students&quot; (the approved term for &quot;young people&quot;) in MANY foriegn capitals enthusiastically joining the struggle.

And MUCH more willing to freely excercise their &quot;free speech&quot; rights.....even without the benefit of a Constitution..(a document with less relevence than the LL Bean catalogue here in corporate/homeland Amerika)


Plainly (in modern parlance) &quot;It&#039;s ON!&quot;

Where it stops nobady knows......but it&#039;s DEEPLY gratifying to see....

Among my very FAVORITE parts....to date...has been watching politicians and spin doctors left and right &quot;harruph&quot; and opine learnedly about whether this enhances or detracts from the relative position of (fill in the blank) Rick Perry, Barack Obama  the Democratic, Republican, Tea or other party...when it is, in fact a complete REPUDIATION of ALL of them.

Viva la Revolucion....and &quot;buena suerte&quot; to all...

Never want to forget to thank Chris for providing the venue...&amp; wish him and his well.

Regards
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I merely wanted to congratulate "dsws" on his assistance to the "Occupy Boston" protesters.<br />
What an excellent choice of words......they should put that in the Constitution or something...don't you think?</p>
<p>Today is Monday....nearly a week after this posting of Chris'......There have been several posts since...all of which I have read...(as always)...either here or on the old venue.</p>
<p>I chose to respond to THIS one in particular for two reasons:</p>
<p>First of all, it seemed a good spot to (possibly) "get a word in edgewise" (as it were).</p>
<p>More importantly, I find "OWS" to be (potentially) the most important political development since the fall of "the wall".....and (I say with great SADNESS) the candidacy of Barack Obama in 2008.</p>
<p>The people are YEARNING for a way to express themselves....and are NOT finding it through the electoral process.....and likely will not..... as Obama's candidacy (one thing)...and administration (quite another) SO graphically point out.</p>
<p>A veteran of the anti-war movement......</p>
<p>Well, it's at this point I always "reign in" my impulses....and I do so again.....and advise others to do the same. The internet is NOT anonymous after all.</p>
<p>I WILL say this....direct, and personal action...in LARGE numbers....with a VERY high degree of personal commitment to actual change (I mean beyond chanting "Yes we can" and writing a check)....is what will be required ...IF it is not already too late.</p>
<p>On the TV box just tonight:</p>
<p> I watched young people all over the WORLD joining the struggle.....<br />
I watched ONE Iraq veteran stand down a phlanx of NYPD clearly ITCHING to join their Chicago 68' forbearers in mayhem against fellow members of the working class........using nothing but his voice and his MORAL SUPERIORITY</p>
<p>I also watched Tom Hayden spout the sort of false equivilancies that would make a younger Tom hide his face in shame.(I hid MINE on his behalf)</p>
<p>I saw what were described as "students" (the approved term for "young people") in MANY foriegn capitals enthusiastically joining the struggle.</p>
<p>And MUCH more willing to freely excercise their "free speech" rights.....even without the benefit of a Constitution..(a document with less relevence than the LL Bean catalogue here in corporate/homeland Amerika)</p>
<p>Plainly (in modern parlance) "It's ON!"</p>
<p>Where it stops nobady knows......but it's DEEPLY gratifying to see....</p>
<p>Among my very FAVORITE parts....to date...has been watching politicians and spin doctors left and right "harruph" and opine learnedly about whether this enhances or detracts from the relative position of (fill in the blank) Rick Perry, Barack Obama  the Democratic, Republican, Tea or other party...when it is, in fact a complete REPUDIATION of ALL of them.</p>
<p>Viva la Revolucion....and "buena suerte" to all...</p>
<p>Never want to forget to thank Chris for providing the venue...&amp; wish him and his well.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
tm</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/10/11/when-the-people-lead/#comment-16491</link>
		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t speak from personal observation about OWS in New York, but here in Boston, unions seem to be the backbone.  They may not be the couple hundred people sleeping in tents.  But they seem to be the ones getting thousands of people to march.  And they&#039;re a long-established Democratic constituency -- just as the Libertarian movement is a long-established Republican constituency.

Yes, the Libertarian movement grumbles about Republicans.  Occasionally they do a primary challenge that can cost Republicans a seat.  Occasionally they let a Republican lose by having markedly lower than usual levels of activism and turnout.  Occasionally they even run a Libertarian party candidate.  But they&#039;re solidly in the Republican camp, just as they were before they adopted the Tea Party label.

Yes, the unions and the ideological left grumble about Democrats.  Many among the ideological left are completely out of the electoral process.  We* don&#039;t have clout with Democrats anything like what the various strands of the ultra-extreme right have with Republicans.  Partly that&#039;s because the ideological left has too little organization to have any meaningful political identity at all.  But on the whole, we&#039;re in the Democratic camp, just as we were before Occupy Wall Street began.

*I have no union affiliation.  I consider myself part of the ideological left.  I have no say in the actions or organization Occupy Boston, but I contributed some signs including this large one over the assembly area.
http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z333/dsws2/IMG_1325.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can't speak from personal observation about OWS in New York, but here in Boston, unions seem to be the backbone.  They may not be the couple hundred people sleeping in tents.  But they seem to be the ones getting thousands of people to march.  And they're a long-established Democratic constituency -- just as the Libertarian movement is a long-established Republican constituency.</p>
<p>Yes, the Libertarian movement grumbles about Republicans.  Occasionally they do a primary challenge that can cost Republicans a seat.  Occasionally they let a Republican lose by having markedly lower than usual levels of activism and turnout.  Occasionally they even run a Libertarian party candidate.  But they're solidly in the Republican camp, just as they were before they adopted the Tea Party label.</p>
<p>Yes, the unions and the ideological left grumble about Democrats.  Many among the ideological left are completely out of the electoral process.  We* don't have clout with Democrats anything like what the various strands of the ultra-extreme right have with Republicans.  Partly that's because the ideological left has too little organization to have any meaningful political identity at all.  But on the whole, we're in the Democratic camp, just as we were before Occupy Wall Street began.</p>
<p>*I have no union affiliation.  I consider myself part of the ideological left.  I have no say in the actions or organization Occupy Boston, but I contributed some signs including this large one over the assembly area.<br />
<a href="http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z333/dsws2/IMG_1325.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z333/dsws2/IMG_1325.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: akadjian</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/10/11/when-the-people-lead/#comment-16487</link>
		<dc:creator>akadjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Osbourne go! 

I went down to Occupy Cincinnati this past weekend and donated to buy some sleeping bags for the group. Unfortunately, I can only visit because I have to occupy my job. 

Not saying this like a conservative pundit would, it&#039;s just the sad fact that it&#039;s real work to occupy and I&#039;m part of the 9 to 5 set. So I do what I can do. *sigh*

Fight the good fight, Osbourne!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Osbourne go! </p>
<p>I went down to Occupy Cincinnati this past weekend and donated to buy some sleeping bags for the group. Unfortunately, I can only visit because I have to occupy my job. </p>
<p>Not saying this like a conservative pundit would, it's just the sad fact that it's real work to occupy and I'm part of the 9 to 5 set. So I do what I can do. *sigh*</p>
<p>Fight the good fight, Osbourne!</p>
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		<title>By: Osborne Ink</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/10/11/when-the-people-lead/#comment-16482</link>
		<dc:creator>Osborne Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 03:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I called a mic check last Friday and strangers rushed up to me with signs. We&#039;re recruiting on campus tomorrow. Alabama is being occupied as you read this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called a mic check last Friday and strangers rushed up to me with signs. We're recruiting on campus tomorrow. Alabama is being occupied as you read this!</p>
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		<title>By: akadjian</title>
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		<dc:creator>akadjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A recent Fox News poll even seemed to indicate support from many who identify as Republicans. Fascinating ...

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8837

Mitt Romney has so far been the smartest of the Republican politicians and backed off his early negative comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A recent Fox News poll even seemed to indicate support from many who identify as Republicans. Fascinating ...</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8837" rel="nofollow">http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8837</a></p>
<p>Mitt Romney has so far been the smartest of the Republican politicians and backed off his early negative comments.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t know if he was the first to say it, but gandhi is known to have said, &quot;There go my people. i must catch up with them, for I am their leader.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don't know if he was the first to say it, but gandhi is known to have said, "There go my people. i must catch up with them, for I am their leader."</p>
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