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		<title>By: Friday Talking Points &#8212; Corporations Are People, Mitt? &#124; Richard Scarry news and articles.</title>
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		<description>[...] week, but Democrats should put it into some perspective when asked about it. Or, if you prefer (as I did, this week), just revel in Wisconsin&#8217;s Labor [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 07:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LB,

I stand corrected..  :D


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LB,</p>
<p>I stand corrected..  :D</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant: Friday Talking Points -- Corporations Are People, Mitt?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 04:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, but Democrats should put it into some perspective when asked about it. Or, if you prefer (as I did, this week), just revel in Wisconsin&#039;s Labor [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant: Friday Talking Points &#8212; Corporations Are People, Mitt? &#124; Politimo - PoliticalParades.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 03:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, but Democrats should put it into some perspective when asked about it. Or, if you prefer (as I did, this week), just revel in Wisconsin&#039;s Labor [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Friday Talking Points [177] &#8212; Corporations Are People, Mitt? &#171; Democrats for Progress</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday Talking Points [177] &#8212; Corporations Are People, Mitt? &#171; Democrats for Progress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 02:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, but Democrats should put it into some perspective when asked about it. Or, if you prefer (as I did, this week), just revel in Wisconsin&#8217;s Labor [...]</description>
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		<title>By: LeaningBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaningBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 02:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michale, you misunderstood the target of my snark.  

I have no problem with Rep. Bachmann citing the Bible&#039;s edict to obey a husband.  Or anything else she might quote, or anything that Gov. Romney might quote from his holy book (no chance of that, though).

What I &lt;/i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; making fun of was the electorate, sufficiently informed that they would watch a debate, and sufficiently lacking common sense that they would howl that no male candidate would be asked if the dictum to obey one&#039;s husband might effect decision making as President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michale, you misunderstood the target of my snark.  </p>
<p>I have no problem with Rep. Bachmann citing the Bible's edict to obey a husband.  Or anything else she might quote, or anything that Gov. Romney might quote from his holy book (no chance of that, though).</p>
<p>What I was making fun of was the electorate, sufficiently informed that they would watch a debate, and sufficiently lacking common sense that they would howl that no male candidate would be asked if the dictum to obey one's husband might effect decision making as President.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWeigant.com &#187; Friday Talking Points [177] -- Corporations Are People, Mitt?</title>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 21:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Well, yeah. Yeah, I think that&#039;s right. These Republican primaries are really going to be funny.&lt;/I&gt;

Anytime the bible get&#039;s involved, one can ALWAYS have &quot;fun&quot; with it...

But, it&#039;s like masturbation...  It&#039;s fun, but still leaves ya all sticky and gunky... 

:D

Surely Democrats have more serious things to do, eh??

I&#039;m just sayin&#039;...


Michale....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Well, yeah. Yeah, I think that's right. These Republican primaries are really going to be funny.</i></p>
<p>Anytime the bible get's involved, one can ALWAYS have "fun" with it...</p>
<p>But, it's like masturbation...  It's fun, but still leaves ya all sticky and gunky... </p>
<p>:D</p>
<p>Surely Democrats have more serious things to do, eh??</p>
<p>I'm just sayin'...</p>
<p>Michale....</p>
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		<title>By: LeaningBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaningBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somewhat topic changing comment, but in any case:

Quote:
&quot;The Lord says: Be submissive, wives. You are to be submissive to your husbands,&quot; Bachmann said at the time, according to the Post. Her campaign hasn&#039;t disputed the remarks.

Question:
&quot;As president, would you be submissive to your husband?&quot; he asked, a question that prompted the crowd to erupt in loud boos.

Response:
[D]ebate viewers ... immediately took to Twitter and blogs ... suggesting &lt;b&gt;no male contender would ever face such scrutiny.&lt;/b&gt;

Well, yeah.  Yeah, I think that&#039;s right.  These Republican primaries are really going to be funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhat topic changing comment, but in any case:</p>
<p>Quote:<br />
"The Lord says: Be submissive, wives. You are to be submissive to your husbands," Bachmann said at the time, according to the Post. Her campaign hasn't disputed the remarks.</p>
<p>Question:<br />
"As president, would you be submissive to your husband?" he asked, a question that prompted the crowd to erupt in loud boos.</p>
<p>Response:<br />
[D]ebate viewers ... immediately took to Twitter and blogs ... suggesting <b>no male contender would ever face such scrutiny.</b></p>
<p>Well, yeah.  Yeah, I think that's right.  These Republican primaries are really going to be funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 10:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;ONLY Michale&#039;s quote was supposed to be italics. Damn it!
&lt;/I&gt;

Remembering to close the attribute is the hardest part of all this...  :D

It comes with practice...

Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>ONLY Michale's quote was supposed to be italics. Damn it!<br />
</i></p>
<p>Remembering to close the attribute is the hardest part of all this...  :D</p>
<p>It comes with practice...</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: LeaningBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaningBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;ONLY&lt;/b&gt; Michale&#039;s quote was supposed to be italics.  &lt;i&gt;Damn it!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>ONLY</b> Michale's quote was supposed to be italics.  <i>Damn it!</i></p>
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		<title>By: LeaningBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaningBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Right up until the very end, these progressives were saying, &quot;this is going to be historic!!&quot;, &quot;this will really be a big win for progressives!!&quot; etc etc...&lt;/i&gt;

That was largely because the Waukesha County Clerk, Kathy Nickolaus, an up and comer in the Republican Party, held out the heavily Republican returns until the very end, so as to maximize exactly the effect on the opposition that you describe.

But what&#039;s interesting to reflect upon is:  Why was the center of the battle the 8th district?  If you pull it up on a map (Wikipedia has one) and cross reference the demographics and geography, you can see why:  it&#039;s a real cross section of American voters.  It&#039;s the home of billionaires (yes, &quot;b&quot;), upper middle class and food stamp recipients; of exurban dirt farmers; of high-tech and blue collar; of displaced union workers from shuttered factories; of Rotary Clubs and college students.

All that outside money and outside political talent didn&#039;t come just to help out the Unions and swing the balance Democrat in the state senate of what, after all, is pretty much a flyover.

They came to see how frame things, what to do.  What Plays in Pewaukee (okay, Pewaukee isn&#039;t in the 8th, I don&#039;t think.  But it&#039;s a cute name in any case.  And anyway, since they just got through with this year&#039;s gerrymander, it might be; who knows.) 

Chris was right in the other thread.  This was much more important than Iowa, and not just because of the immediate stakes.  These six districts were laboratories, but none anywhere near as much as the 8th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Right up until the very end, these progressives were saying, "this is going to be historic!!", "this will really be a big win for progressives!!" etc etc...</i></p>
<p>That was largely because the Waukesha County Clerk, Kathy Nickolaus, an up and comer in the Republican Party, held out the heavily Republican returns until the very end, so as to maximize exactly the effect on the opposition that you describe.</p>
<p>But what's interesting to reflect upon is:  Why was the center of the battle the 8th district?  If you pull it up on a map (Wikipedia has one) and cross reference the demographics and geography, you can see why:  it's a real cross section of American voters.  It's the home of billionaires (yes, "b"), upper middle class and food stamp recipients; of exurban dirt farmers; of high-tech and blue collar; of displaced union workers from shuttered factories; of Rotary Clubs and college students.</p>
<p>All that outside money and outside political talent didn't come just to help out the Unions and swing the balance Democrat in the state senate of what, after all, is pretty much a flyover.</p>
<p>They came to see how frame things, what to do.  What Plays in Pewaukee (okay, Pewaukee isn't in the 8th, I don't think.  But it's a cute name in any case.  And anyway, since they just got through with this year's gerrymander, it might be; who knows.) </p>
<p>Chris was right in the other thread.  This was much more important than Iowa, and not just because of the immediate stakes.  These six districts were laboratories, but none anywhere near as much as the 8th.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Back then, Progressives were scoring important victories which have made all Americans&#039; lives better ever since.&lt;/I&gt;

And, back then, those victories WERE important...

But flash-forward to today and you see that Unions have become just as greedy and corrupt as the corporations they were set up to oppose...

In other words, in the here and now, Unions are (for the most part) part of the problem and NOT part of the solution..

It&#039;s all about money and power, whether it&#039;s greedy corporations or greedy union leadership..

Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Back then, Progressives were scoring important victories which have made all Americans' lives better ever since.</i></p>
<p>And, back then, those victories WERE important...</p>
<p>But flash-forward to today and you see that Unions have become just as greedy and corrupt as the corporations they were set up to oppose...</p>
<p>In other words, in the here and now, Unions are (for the most part) part of the problem and NOT part of the solution..</p>
<p>It's all about money and power, whether it's greedy corporations or greedy union leadership..</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Regarding the recalls yesterday, I don&#039;t believe it was by any means crushing, even while &quot;a beat is a beat.&quot; But it was disappointing, so I thought maybe a little serendipity might be in order.&lt;/I&gt;

I was reading some of the &quot;Live Blogging&quot; from a progressive site going on during the vote count in Wisconsin.

It was hilarious...   :D

Right up until the very end, these progressives were saying, &quot;this is going to be historic!!&quot;, &quot;this will really be a big win for progressives!!&quot; etc etc...

Then, when it was announced that Democrats didn&#039;t make the cut, all the posts changed..

&quot;It&#039;s not a big deal&quot; and &quot;this loss doesn&#039;t mean a a thing!&quot;  etc etc...

I hope none of the posters got hurt with that 180 turnaround they made..  :D

To be fair, I am certain it would have happened if the issue was a Right issue as well..

Political ideologues are political ideologues...

&lt;B&gt;&quot;Your good and your evil use the same methods to achieve the same goals&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
-Yarnek, STAR TREK, The Savage Curtain

Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Regarding the recalls yesterday, I don't believe it was by any means crushing, even while "a beat is a beat." But it was disappointing, so I thought maybe a little serendipity might be in order.</i></p>
<p>I was reading some of the "Live Blogging" from a progressive site going on during the vote count in Wisconsin.</p>
<p>It was hilarious...   :D</p>
<p>Right up until the very end, these progressives were saying, "this is going to be historic!!", "this will really be a big win for progressives!!" etc etc...</p>
<p>Then, when it was announced that Democrats didn't make the cut, all the posts changed..</p>
<p>"It's not a big deal" and "this loss doesn't mean a a thing!"  etc etc...</p>
<p>I hope none of the posters got hurt with that 180 turnaround they made..  :D</p>
<p>To be fair, I am certain it would have happened if the issue was a Right issue as well..</p>
<p>Political ideologues are political ideologues...</p>
<p><b>"Your good and your evil use the same methods to achieve the same goals"</b><br />
-Yarnek, STAR TREK, The Savage Curtain</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: LeaningBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaningBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 00:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having already identified LaFollette as a personal political hero in an earlier &quot;Wisconsin&quot; post, I&#039;ve not much more to add, other than to congratulate you one observing the centennial, which I missed.

Regarding the recalls yesterday, I don&#039;t believe it was by any means crushing, even while &quot;a beat is a beat.&quot; But it was disappointing, so I thought maybe a little serendipity might be in order. 

The real reason for this post is to identify a real opportunity for Texas governor Perry to further define himself .  There&#039;s a bison loose in the Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center.  The cranky buffalo defected from an adjoining ranch, and has defied attempts to down it with a tranquilizer gun, and true to its species, is decidedly misanthropic.   

Aligning with the city&#039;s motto of &quot;Keep Austin Wierd,&quot; I&#039;m told the buffalo now has its own Twitter (account?, name?, page? whatever) where its movements within the expanse of the Center can be followed.

Now, how might the gov step in?  The same way he intervened when an urban coyote posted a perceived threat to his lab puppy while he was jogging:  Governors 1, Coyotes 0. (Doesn&#039;t everybody pack heat while jogging?)
 
Texas law is on his side, and how could Bachmann counter it?  Shoot a cow?  Or one of the hooligans invading the hubby&#039;s &quot;clinic?&quot;  Doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having already identified LaFollette as a personal political hero in an earlier "Wisconsin" post, I've not much more to add, other than to congratulate you one observing the centennial, which I missed.</p>
<p>Regarding the recalls yesterday, I don't believe it was by any means crushing, even while "a beat is a beat." But it was disappointing, so I thought maybe a little serendipity might be in order. </p>
<p>The real reason for this post is to identify a real opportunity for Texas governor Perry to further define himself .  There's a bison loose in the Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center.  The cranky buffalo defected from an adjoining ranch, and has defied attempts to down it with a tranquilizer gun, and true to its species, is decidedly misanthropic.   </p>
<p>Aligning with the city's motto of "Keep Austin Wierd," I'm told the buffalo now has its own Twitter (account?, name?, page? whatever) where its movements within the expanse of the Center can be followed.</p>
<p>Now, how might the gov step in?  The same way he intervened when an urban coyote posted a perceived threat to his lab puppy while he was jogging:  Governors 1, Coyotes 0. (Doesn't everybody pack heat while jogging?)</p>
<p>Texas law is on his side, and how could Bachmann counter it?  Shoot a cow?  Or one of the hooligans invading the hubby's "clinic?"  Doubt it.</p>
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