On 17 May we might just find out the truth..

Mr Hope, Change and Transparency sure isn't giving us any of it...

Michale......

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/04/20/magazine/obamamagcham/obamamagcham-custom1.jpg

Is Obama the president he said he was going to be??

Looking at his presidency in the cold light of objectivity, I would have to say no...

Michale.....

"Sooner or later you're going to realize just as I did that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path." - Morpheus, The Matrix

Kudos :D

Michale.....

So dramatic ... :)

Yes, your very existence is threatened because he's worse than Hitler!!!!

(Ok, I done it. Yunno I'm kidding. Just had to bring Hitler in.)

-David

...economists are hopeful.....

...outlook for employment rose slightly....

etc etc etc...

Not really "visionary" stuff now is it??

We go trillions and trillions of dollars in debt for "appears to be" and "hopeful" and "slight rise"???

Yea, I know.. I know.. We have to start somewhere..

But we should have been at THIS point a year or two ago....

Ya know.... Back when Obama was tied up with CrapCare....

A year and a half... We just have to survive another year and a half...

Michale.....

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iy-8TqFCSauUy6pQ-VypURftZCvw?docId=c9e22473408d43e98a797c7c51123351

But there comes a time when you must quit talking about "the vision" and actually fulfill it...

"Quit trying to hit me and HIT ME!!"
-Morpheus, THE MATRIX

Obama has been laying out his vision for about three years now..

When are we going to start seeing some results??

Michale....

I believe that the follow-thru is more important.

But that's because you want him to lose :)

If you've lead a business or lead a team, you know that the first thing you have to do is lay out a vision and get buy-in for your vision.

Here's our goal, and here's why we need to accomplish it.

If you don't, you're going to face an uphill battle the entire way.

This is probably the single biggest reason conservatives have been more successful over the past 30 years. They've set the agenda. Even when Democrats are in office.

Now granted, part of the reason they've been able to do this is because they've had some extremely well-heeled backers. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is probably the biggest. It also helps when you own the media :)

Think about it. You can recite this vision by memory to the point where its become religion: smaller government, lower taxes, less regulation ... rinse & repeat. Trickle down, trickle down.

Even after the economic crisis people are so bought into this vision that they are ready to believe just about anything other than this vision was to blame.

No excuses though. I believe progressives have a better vision. If anything we should spend more time getting it out there. Use the bully pulpit!

-David

I disagree..

I believe that the follow-thru is more important..

I would rather have a president set realistic goals and actually achieve them, rather than a president who blows smoke up me arse but never actually delivers...

Michale.....

No more taken in than anyone who listened to Reagan :)

As President, I believe one of your biggest jobs is to set a vision for the country.

Obama, like Reagan, can be quite good at this as you mentioned.

I also believe that we have to get better at doing the same type of thing. Its one of the reasons I like to hang out here.

-David

Sure, Obama gives a good speech..

Obama ALWAYS gave a good speech...

But, when the rubber hits the road, Obama usually falls flat on his face..

I am surprised ya'all would be taken in (AGAIN) by fancy words and loquacious speeches...

"All it'll take is a few shiny beads and some shallow flattery."
-BJ Honicutt, MASH

or

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me"
-Scotty, STAR TREK, Friday's Child

I couldn't decide which quote was more apt, so I used 'em both.. :D

Michale.....

Yeah, you're right, it isn't the best slogan I've ever heard. I notice Obama's not using it as much anymore, though. Maybe they decided the same thing.

Personally, it reminds me of Gerry Ford's "Whip Inflation Now" buttons ("WIN"), and that's never a good thing.

-CW

Here, here!

Dang, that's good stuff. That's the Obama I voted for. No more comments, just going to savor it for a moment :)

-David