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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/02/21/our-forgotten-presidents/#comment-13267</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 07:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tommymccarthy -

As a kid, I went to Gettysburg, Anteitam, Monticello, Mt. Vernon, Ford&#039;s Theater, Independence Hall, as well as more historic sights than you can shake a stick at in DC, so I know exactly what you mean.

I bet your cousins called it &quot;the war between the states&quot; or even &quot;the war of northern agression&quot; too, didn&#039;t they?

:-)

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tommymccarthy -</p>
<p>As a kid, I went to Gettysburg, Anteitam, Monticello, Mt. Vernon, Ford's Theater, Independence Hall, as well as more historic sights than you can shake a stick at in DC, so I know exactly what you mean.</p>
<p>I bet your cousins called it "the war between the states" or even "the war of northern agression" too, didn't they?</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/02/21/our-forgotten-presidents/#comment-13266</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 07:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odinseye -

Perhaps, but it is also a pretty nitpicky issue, you&#039;ve got to admit.  &quot;Presidents&#039; Day&quot; is so ingrained in the American consciousness now that it is in widespread useage.

Here are a few examples.  

Senate calendar:

http://senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/one_item_and_teasers/2011_schedule.htm

House calendar:

http://house.gov/house/House_Calendar.shtml

At least the Senate got the apostrophe right.  Sigh.

But in any case, if I ever write about it again, I will surely include a side reference to the citations you have posted.  Picking nits, I must confess, is a favorite hobby of mine, so you&#039;re in luck.

Heh.

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odinseye -</p>
<p>Perhaps, but it is also a pretty nitpicky issue, you've got to admit.  "Presidents' Day" is so ingrained in the American consciousness now that it is in widespread useage.</p>
<p>Here are a few examples.  </p>
<p>Senate calendar:</p>
<p><a href="http://senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/one_item_and_teasers/2011_schedule.htm" rel="nofollow">http://senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/one_item_and_teasers/2011_schedule.htm</a></p>
<p>House calendar:</p>
<p><a href="http://house.gov/house/House_Calendar.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://house.gov/house/House_Calendar.shtml</a></p>
<p>At least the Senate got the apostrophe right.  Sigh.</p>
<p>But in any case, if I ever write about it again, I will surely include a side reference to the citations you have posted.  Picking nits, I must confess, is a favorite hobby of mine, so you're in luck.</p>
<p>Heh.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Odinseye</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/02/21/our-forgotten-presidents/#comment-13264</link>
		<dc:creator>Odinseye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 03:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The holiday issue I bring up is not a North vs South, Union vs Confederacy, or Conservative vs Liberal thing.  I am a liberal, raised in states which had nothing to do with the Civil War, and which observe Lincoln&#039;s Birthday.  

It is an issue of correct vs incorrect.  As a federal holiday, President&#039;s Day is incorrect and   Washington&#039;s Birthday is correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The holiday issue I bring up is not a North vs South, Union vs Confederacy, or Conservative vs Liberal thing.  I am a liberal, raised in states which had nothing to do with the Civil War, and which observe Lincoln's Birthday.  </p>
<p>It is an issue of correct vs incorrect.  As a federal holiday, President's Day is incorrect and   Washington's Birthday is correct.</p>
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		<title>By: tommymccarthy</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/02/21/our-forgotten-presidents/#comment-13261</link>
		<dc:creator>tommymccarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 01:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I see they&#039;re whuppin&#039; up on ya&#039; with gusto over here too, Chris....heh

Just a personal aside....

When I was in grade school...schoolchildren and many working adults had holidays for BOTH Lincoln&#039;s and Washington&#039;s birthday...

This seemed perfectly normal to me....since in Upstate N.Y. we were surrounded by Revolutionary War Battlefields, and were in the heart of the Abolitionist, and Women&#039;s sufferage movements &quot;home turf&quot;..... We were also one of the final stops on the &quot;underground railroad&quot; for slaves escaping to Canada.

(Go figure....I grew up to be a Liberal)

I remember being very surprised that cousins in Virgina did NOT celebrate Lincoln&#039;s birthday....and never had...
 I was too young to understand that some of their parents had not even accepted the results of the Civil War!

Off to FTP

Hoping you are well
TM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I see they're whuppin' up on ya' with gusto over here too, Chris....heh</p>
<p>Just a personal aside....</p>
<p>When I was in grade school...schoolchildren and many working adults had holidays for BOTH Lincoln's and Washington's birthday...</p>
<p>This seemed perfectly normal to me....since in Upstate N.Y. we were surrounded by Revolutionary War Battlefields, and were in the heart of the Abolitionist, and Women's sufferage movements "home turf"..... We were also one of the final stops on the "underground railroad" for slaves escaping to Canada.</p>
<p>(Go figure....I grew up to be a Liberal)</p>
<p>I remember being very surprised that cousins in Virgina did NOT celebrate Lincoln's birthday....and never had...<br />
 I was too young to understand that some of their parents had not even accepted the results of the Civil War!</p>
<p>Off to FTP</p>
<p>Hoping you are well<br />
TM</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odinseye,

Very good reads...  :D  Thanx


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odinseye,</p>
<p>Very good reads...  :D  Thanx</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Odinseye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Odinseye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More info regarding the myth of &quot;Presidents&#039; Day&quot;.  Please see the links for information from the federal government, the federal law, and two articles which look at the facts and myths:

http://www.opm.gov/operating_status_schedules/fedhol/2011.asp

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/5/usc_sec_05_00006103----000-.html

http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2004/winter/gw-birthday-1.html

http://www.archives.gov/legislative/features/washington/

Happy Washington&#039;s Birthday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More info regarding the myth of "Presidents' Day".  Please see the links for information from the federal government, the federal law, and two articles which look at the facts and myths:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.opm.gov/operating_status_schedules/fedhol/2011.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.opm.gov/operating_status_schedules/fedhol/2011.asp</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/5/usc_sec_05_00006103----000-.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/5/usc_sec_05_00006103----000-.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2004/winter/gw-birthday-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2004/winter/gw-birthday-1.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.archives.gov/legislative/features/washington/" rel="nofollow">http://www.archives.gov/legislative/features/washington/</a></p>
<p>Happy Washington's Birthday!</p>
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		<title>By: Odinseye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Odinseye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The two formerly-i­ndividual holidays celebratin­g Washington­&#039;s Birthday and Lincoln&#039;s Birthday have been merged into a single federal holiday &quot;

Completely incorrect. There is no federal holiday called Presidents&#039; Day.  Please refer to federal law Title 5 US Code 6103(a).

Lincoln&#039;s birthday was never a federal holiday. Washington­&#039;s birthday was a federal holiday which used to be observed on the 22nd. In 1968 a federal law, the Uniform Monday Holiday Act, was passed moving several holidays to specific Mondays of the respective months in order to create three day weekends. This law took effect in 1971. This law is often mistakenly believe to have merged and renamed Washington­&#039;s and Lincoln&#039;s borthdays, but it actually did not. That effort never made it out of committee. All the law ended up doing is moving the federal observance of Washington­&#039;s Birthday to the 3rd Monday in Feb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"The two formerly-i­ndividual holidays celebratin­g Washington­'s Birthday and Lincoln's Birthday have been merged into a single federal holiday "</p>
<p>Completely incorrect. There is no federal holiday called Presidents' Day.  Please refer to federal law Title 5 US Code 6103(a).</p>
<p>Lincoln's birthday was never a federal holiday. Washington­'s birthday was a federal holiday which used to be observed on the 22nd. In 1968 a federal law, the Uniform Monday Holiday Act, was passed moving several holidays to specific Mondays of the respective months in order to create three day weekends. This law took effect in 1971. This law is often mistakenly believe to have merged and renamed Washington­'s and Lincoln's borthdays, but it actually did not. That effort never made it out of committee. All the law ended up doing is moving the federal observance of Washington­'s Birthday to the 3rd Monday in Feb.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/02/21/our-forgotten-presidents/#comment-13179</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My pleasure..  :D

Glad ta hep out...


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My pleasure..  :D</p>
<p>Glad ta hep out...</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michale -

Whoops!  Thanks for pointing that out, I&#039;ve fixed it.

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michale -</p>
<p>Whoops!  Thanks for pointing that out, I've fixed it.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/02/21/our-forgotten-presidents/#comment-13173</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, &quot;1989&quot; stuck with me as well, because Reagan was still President.   :D


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, "1989" stuck with me as well, because Reagan was still President.   :D</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, I read through the reply without catching that &quot;1989&quot;.  I suspect that with the unrest in the Arab world, he&#039;s been reading about eastern Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I read through the reply without catching that "1989".  I suspect that with the unrest in the Arab world, he's been reading about eastern Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/02/21/our-forgotten-presidents/#comment-13171</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But other than that minor nitpick, it was a great and educational commentary...  :D


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But other than that minor nitpick, it was a great and educational commentary...  :D</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;But George Washington, the &quot;Father of our Country,&quot; didn&#039;t take office until &lt;B&gt;1989&lt;/B&gt;. And we had declared our independence thirteen years earlier.

But I wanted to keep the whole &quot;Constitutional Convention and post-&lt;B&gt;1987/B&gt;&quot; part of it (to say nothing less of the &quot;post-&lt;B&gt;1989&lt;/B&gt;&quot; history) out of this article;
&lt;/I&gt;

Ahem....

I assume you mean &quot;1789&quot;....  :D

Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But George Washington, the "Father of our Country," didn't take office until <b>1989</b>. And we had declared our independence thirteen years earlier.</p>
<p>But I wanted to keep the whole "Constitutional Convention and post-<b>1987/B&gt;" part of it (to say nothing less of the "post-</b><b>1989</b>" history) out of this article;<br />
</i></p>
<p>Ahem....</p>
<p>I assume you mean "1789"....  :D</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/02/21/our-forgotten-presidents/#comment-13169</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kevin -&lt;/strong&gt;

Don&#039;t feel bad.  I don&#039;t know about them, either.  Heh.  Heh heh.

&lt;strong&gt;dsws -&lt;/strong&gt;

Yeah, yeah... well... picky, picky.  The whole &quot;begging for Congress to give him some damn money to fight the damn war with the damn British regulars and the &lt;em&gt;goddamn&lt;/em&gt; Hessian mercenaries&quot; part of the story, I thought I had adequately addressed (although I freely admit: &quot;your mileage may vary&quot;).  But I wanted to keep the whole &quot;Constitutional Convention and post-1987&quot; part of it (to say nothing less of the &quot;post-1989&quot; history) out of this article; because it already had too much factoidal historical heaviness as it was, so I beg your forgiveness on that one.

Heh.

:-)

&lt;strong&gt;-CW&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kevin -</strong></p>
<p>Don't feel bad.  I don't know about them, either.  Heh.  Heh heh.</p>
<p><strong>dsws -</strong></p>
<p>Yeah, yeah... well... picky, picky.  The whole "begging for Congress to give him some damn money to fight the damn war with the damn British regulars and the <em>goddamn</em> Hessian mercenaries" part of the story, I thought I had adequately addressed (although I freely admit: "your mileage may vary").  But I wanted to keep the whole "Constitutional Convention and post-1987" part of it (to say nothing less of the "post-1989" history) out of this article; because it already had too much factoidal historical heaviness as it was, so I beg your forgiveness on that one.</p>
<p>Heh.</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p><strong>-CW</strong></p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 03:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But George Washington, the &quot;Father of our Country,&quot; didn&#039;t take office until 1989.&quot;

It&#039;s worth noting that he&#039;s &quot;Father of our Country&quot; not just for being the first president but for presiding at the constitutional convention and commanding the continental army during the war, as well as being involved in the patriot movement before independence.

Nonetheless, good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"But George Washington, the "Father of our Country," didn't take office until 1989."</p>
<p>It's worth noting that he's "Father of our Country" not just for being the first president but for presiding at the constitutional convention and commanding the continental army during the war, as well as being involved in the patriot movement before independence.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, good post.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 02:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about your American readership, but I always enjoy your educational posts :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't know about your American readership, but I always enjoy your educational posts :-)</p>
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