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Michale....
189 :D

So, what's your comment total. You must be up to 200 by now ... only four more days to go!

Because being gay is NOT "who they are".. It's what they do..

Being Black is "who you are"... Being female is "who you are"...

Being an accountant is what you do. Being a fireman is what you do. Having a loving marriage/relationship with the someone is what you do.

Michale.....

What about heterosexual people? I mean, you left them out of your nature/nurture debate parameters.

I don't really understand what your pet peeve is when it comes to the repeal of DADT. The whole point of repealing DADT is to allow gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military - that is to say, be who they are.

How is it an issue of being what they do?

For the record, I am not comparing the *actions* of gay people vs Pedophiles or Serial Killers.....

Or Liberals... :D

I am simply saying that there is evidence that shows that one can be "born" a liberal (IE nature) vs becoming a liberal (IE nurture)...

And that evidence is just as "definitive" (IE subjective) as the evidence that one can be "born" gay (IE nature) vs choosing the gay lifestyle (IE nurture)

Just wanted to clarify that so there isn't any misunderstandings...

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It's not an issue of being who they are, but rather about being what they do...

If there was ironclad evidence that being gay is nature and not nurture, then the discrimination argument would have merit.

But there is no such evidence.

So where does this lead us??

Are bi-sexual people going to become the victims of "discrimination" and become a protected "class of people"??

What about promiscuous people?? Liberals?? Pedophiles?? Serial Killers??

There is "science" that shows that, with such people, it's nature over nurture..

Where does this Political Correctness gone rampant end and common sense begin???

Michale.....
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Good points all...

And if (and it's a BIG 'if') the Left allows things to be implemented in reality as it is on paper then I'll be the first one to applaud...

I have no doubt that the gays that are in the military will put the needs of the military above all else, including any political agenda.

It's the gay community outside of the military who will cause all the problems (if any).

Let's face it, the Left is not a huge fan of the military to begin with. It's entirely possible (even likely) that the Left will use this as an excuse to stick it to the military.

But, you are dead on. What it says on paper IS pretty much what I asked for..

What remains to be seen is whether or not reality meets what is written..

Michale....
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Not to correct you, but...

This IS the way the Left set it up. They're the ones who wrote the repeal the way they did. Obama spent a year allowing the Pentagon to get ready, and study the issue. He didn't have to do that, but it's going to pay off. From the Washington Post story today:

"According to the legislation, the issue would rest entirely with Obama and top military leaders, who must inform Congress in writing that they have reviewed the findings of a Pentagon study regarding an end to the ban and that the Defense Department has drafted the policies and regulations necessary to stop enforcing it. Those changes must not impact troop readiness, cohesion or military recruitment and retention, according to the law.

...

Close military observers anticipate that the ease of ending the ban will vary widely among the different military branches and that the Pentagon may stagger implementation of the change across the military branches. "

I don't know what else you could ask for, in terms of doing it smoothly and with as little impact as possible.

I know you weren't a big fan of repeal (to be fair, you weren't all that big an opponent, either), but if you look at the law that passed, I think you'll see it's about as good as could be expected, all around.

-CW

Is the Left going to accept the military's way of repealing it to have as little impact on National Security??

Or is the Left going to hysterically bitch and moan to try and get everything done THEIR way... IE as dangerously irresponsible as possible???

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“Sen. Brown accepts the Pentagon’s recommendation to repeal the policy after proper preparations have been completed. If and when a clean repeal bill comes up for a vote, he will support it,” said Brown spokesperson Gail Gitcho.

Now, the only question remains...

Will the *LEFT* accept the Pentagon's recommendation to repeal the policy after proper preparations have been completed (emphasis mine)...

THAT is the real question...

Michale.....
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By the bi, CW...

Don't think I didn't notice the Babylon 5 reference in the commentary title.. :D

Michale.....
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Biggest Winner - Large American multinational corporations. Currently sitting on 1-2 trillion in extra cash. Executives slated to reap more if tax cut legislation passes.

Biggest Loser The unemployed. Lost in the media festival around the tax cut package are jobs. The conversation has almost completely gotten away from jobs to who is going to get tax cuts. Who cares? How is any of this going to create jobs?

Best Politician Nancy Pelosi. Tough as nails. A true progressive. Anyone conservatives demonize this much has to be doing something right :)

Worst Politician Michael Steele. Conservatives make a comeback in November despite Steele's best efforts to stop them.

Most defining political moment The tax debate. I think this says a lot about the state of politics. Conservatives controlling the conversation and setting the agenda. Democrats buckling all over the place.

Most Boring Where to start? :) I'm gonna go with John Boehner. Hardly anyone knows anything about our new Speaker of the House. Guess he's working on being less boring by crying a lot in public. Boring.

Bummest Rap Wikileaks

Best Comeback The Republican Party for using the Tea Party to take Obama's campaign about change and make it their own.

There's a couple anyways.
-David

To elaborate on this....

Claiming that being gay is all about genetics is simply an agnostic's way of saying, "The Devil made me do it." :D

Michale.....
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Or, more accurately, a minimum of two more years of kicking people out of the military because they refuse to lie about what they do (or inadequately covered it up).

There is as much "science" that supports the theory that being a slut is genetic and being a liberal is genetic as there is being gay is genetic...

I'm going to present you with a very loaded question, just to warn you. Feel free to ignore it if you wish.

Which do you think would be better for the troops? Looking forward to your response...

It's a no brainer..

Option one is obviously the best way to go, given only those two options...

Now, let me pose a question to you... And to anyone who wants to respond..

What's the best way for the military to repeal DADT??

My choice is for the repeal to be announced for strictly 702 units...

After that has shown there would be no issues (which is likely) then move the repeal to logistical and support units. There will likely be more of a fuss, but nothing insurmountable.

Finally, announce the repeal for combat units....

That's the SMART way to go about it.

How much ya wanna bet that the Hysterical Left and those with the Pro-Gay agenda will want full integration immediately with absolutely NO prep time?? :^/

Michale
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(I'm really continuing the thread from last week's article here, just for reference.)

I'm going to present you with a very loaded question, just to warn you. Feel free to ignore it if you wish.

If you had the choice of the following two (and ONLY two) options, which would you prefer?

(1.) DADT is repealed by Congress, the military takes the time to plan a transition, and makes the change as smoothly as possible.

(2.) DADT is thrown out by the Supreme Court, and the military is forced to change policy overnight.

Which do you think would be better for the troops? Looking forward to your response...

-CW

This Friday we will be pre-empting our usual Friday Talking Points column so that we may instead bring you "Part 1" of our annual "My McLaughlin Awards" columns (Part 2 will run next Friday).

What this means is, everyone has less than 48 hours to post suggestions here for award winners.

Take a look at last year's "Part 1" column to see the awards categories for the first week of awards. Then feel free to post your suggestions for nominees for ANY of these categories here.

We now return you to your regular comments, already in progress...

-CW