Nice try, though.

Did she??

I didn't know anyone ever HEARD of Tina Fey before she began mocking... er.. ridiculing...er.. I mean impersonating Sarah Palin... :D

But I have never been a fan of SNL, so that might be it...

Michale......

Um, no. Tina Fey made glasses sexy years before anyone outside Wasilla had ever heard of Palin.

Nice try, though.

-CW

Since Fey is mocking (er... I mean "impersonating") Sarah Palin, shouldn't the credit for making glasses for women sexy again go to Palin and not Fey??

Hmmmmmmmmm??? :D

Michale.....

See!?? I was wrong again.. :D

Something I get just about every time Sarah Palin opens her mouth.

Wow.. You really must hate her.

I wonder how she got to be the most popular governor in the country in a state that has a very unique set of governing issues and circumstances..

So, on the one hand, we have your antipathy towards her and on the other hand, we have her obvious, many and varied accomplishments...

Hmmmmmmmm Decisions, decisions... :D

Michale.....

Ever watch NCIS??

I think that's what a "face palm" is, except to the face rather than to the back of the head..

I might be wrong. :D

why is it that Michale considers any radical, wacky, extremist position as a solid, respectable Lefty position;

When it is the position of an entire otherwise respectable Lefty organization. Like a Teacher's Union.

In the two examples I provided, the "wackos" in question were supported by their respective Teacher's Unions..

Now it's my turn to ask the same question to ya'all..

Why do ya'all write off the entire Tea Party movement because of the actions of a few..

When you look at the core issues, they are POPULIST in nature..

I saw that NBC interview, and actually thought the black Tea Partier held his own fairly well -- I liked his responses that "These are my people," and "I am an American!"

Yea, Tea Party people really are more intelligent than most activists.. :D (oooooo I am gonna burn for that one.. :D)

But my point was to illustrate the complete and utter bias that the MSM has against the Tea Party movement..

One thing I did notice in all the Tea Party coverage was that there seemed to be a lot less Tea Partiers than there were a year ago. Has this wave already crested? Hmmm....

Doubtful. More likely the calm before the storm..

But one thing I have always noticed.. There are never (or hardly ever) any arrests or violence associated with Tea Party rallies..

Can't say the same about Left Wing shindigs...

Michale.....

A Face Palm is a a gesture used as an expression of embarrassment or disbelief. Something I get just about every time Sarah Palin opens her mouth.

Michale (and everyone) --

There's a bug I haven't been able to fix between the comment numbers (which include trackbacks and pingbacks) on the front page, and the numbers on the page itself (which counts only valid comments). This is why the commnet numbers sometimes are higher on the front page. I'm working on it...

BashiBazouk -

OK, I have to admit my own ignorance: what's a "face palm"?

And, I have to admit, you scored a definite hit below the water line on Michale there -- why is it that Michale considers any radical, wacky, extremist position as a solid, respectable Lefty position; when he refuses to use this same level of "BS-filter" on Republicans and right-wingers? Good question indeed....

Michale -

I saw that NBC interview, and actually thought the black Tea Partier held his own fairly well -- I liked his responses that "These are my people," and "I am an American!"

But the story which followed it was incredibly slanted towards the right-wing view of the universe, I have to say. No mention of the tax breaks Obama was responsible for, and no mention of the fact that taxes are at a 60-year low (these are FACTS, not opinions). And every right-wing framing device was employed. I personally belive that Brian Williams uses the NBC Nightly News as a sort of balance to what MSNBC puts out, and leans pretty consistently to the right as a result.

But, I have to admit, it doesn't do any harm to Williams or NBC in the ratings game (as they regularly beat out ABC and CBS).

One thing I did notice in all the Tea Party coverage was that there seemed to be a lot less Tea Partiers than there were a year ago. Has this wave already crested? Hmmm....

-CW

NBC Reporter To Black Man At Tea Party: "Have You Ever Felt Uncomfortable?"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/04/16/nbc_reporter_to_black_man_at_tea_party_have_you_ever_felt_uncomfortable.html

:^/

It's no wonder ya'all see the Tea Party in the manner ya see it...

Michale.....

A media that, as I have shown is extremely biased against the Teap Party..

So, I do apologize.. It wasn't your biases but rather the media bias that was being displayed..

There are intelligent people in the tea party movement. Most that I have encountered are hold overs from the Ron Paul for president campaign.

Can you cite some examples... That seems to be a very blanket statement to make..

There are definite loonies in the Tea Party I have seen way too much proof to deny.

A situation not completely confined to the Tea Party, I am sure you will agree...

But what I find strange is your attitude that a few wacko liberals stand for the entire democratic party and yet the tea party and republican party get a free pass for the same situation.

Because the "wacko" liberals that I cite have the complete backing of their organizations. The Teacher's Union in Oregon is on record as completely supporting the actions of said "wacko"..

So, while it's true that there are "wacko"s in all groups, it would seem that the "wacko" liberals that want to attack the Tea Party group are much more prevalent and said "wacko-ness" (it's a word, I looked it up :D) is actually part and parcel of the whole group...

If I didn't have a playlist, I would have thought those liberal groups were actually right-wing groups.. :D

"Your good and your evil use the same methods to achieve the same goals."
-Yarnek, STAR TREK, The Savage Curtain

Michale.....

There are definite loonies in the Tea Party I have seen way too much proof to deny. But what I find strange is your attitude that a few wacko liberals stand for the entire democratic party and yet the tea party and republican party get a free pass for the same situation. That is why I say People rather than anyone specifically. I have no control over in individual who prescribes to the more wacky of the left. They do not represent me and I don't represent them. Sometimes we vote for the same candidate.

The tea party movement may have earlier roots but did not get the publicity to really take off until it became part of the Ron Paul Campaign...

Actually, the "Tea Party" began further back then that.

On September 23rd 2003, a politician and his supporters gathered in Boston and the politician gave this speech.

“230 years ago, right here in Boston, 50 dedicated patriots known as the Sons of Liberty boarded three ships in Boston Harbor to protest a government more concerned with monied interests than its own people. Those 50 patriots believed that they had the power and the duty to change their government…

We stand at a critical moment in American history. Either we come together and take action now to restore a politics of participation and a politics of the people, or we allow the Washington insiders and the special interests to continue to make the back room deals that are destroying people's faith in our government.”

That pretty much sounds like the current Tea Party movement, eh?? :D

Oh, yea.. Forgot to mention.

The politician who gave that speech was Howard Dean... :D

Iddn't THAT ironic, eh? :D

"I love it when a plan comes together"
-Hannibal Smith, THE A-TEAM

Michale.....

The usurpers on the other hand seem to rarely utter more than a few sentences with out a serious face palm moment.

Sorry, but apparently you are wrong in this assessment.

A New York Times/CBS survey finds Tea Party backers are more educated than the general population. The percentage who attended college is five points higher, eight for graduates and four for post-graduate students.

Perhaps it's your political biases that are coloring your assessments of the Tea Party.

Michale.....

Hay CW, the comment numbers seem screwy..

On the front page, it says this commentary has 16 comments. But in the commentary, it says there is only 15 comments..

I have noticed a couple instances of that throughout the day..

Just a heads up...

Michale.....

But we are talking about the tea party to which many of their members still can't decide whether Obama is Hitler or Stalin incarnate. Not exactly coming from the moral or intellectual high ground.

Yea, Yea, Yea.. And they also hurl racial and sexist slurs too.. Funny though..

None of it is ever documented...

Besides, how do you know that those are REALLY Tea Party members doing it and not the Leftist/Democrat/Liberal infiltrators?? Hmmmmmmmm??? :D

Regardless, ya'all on the Left said much MUCH worse about Bush...

Why so sensitive all of the sudden?? :D

So, do you have any proof that this is from more than low single digits percentage of democrats?

There have been several articles from places like CT and OR where Democrats have stated their intentions to "infiltrate" Tea Party gatherings and spout off racial and gay-bashing slurs and the like..

Honestly, seriously.. If one has to jump into gay bashing and racial slurs and espouse the virtues of the Nazis and Hitler to support one's agenda... Wouldn't you agree that SUCH an agenda deserves NO support??? Hmmmmm????

I read last week that she has made about $12 million in speaking fees since leaving the governorship. A bit more that being governor pays...

That doesn't mean she is doing it for the money, which is what you stated...

You got me there. Sarah Palin leaving Alaska was the best thing for the state. Not exactly a solid recommendation for higher office though...

No, Sarah Palin stopping all the expense caused by the Hysterical (and not so Hysterical) Left wing garbage was the best thing that Sarah Palin could do for Alaska..

At least we agree that Sarah Palin acted as a good Governor should..

More common ground.. :D

As many as you wish. She would not even survive the primary season and I can't see anyone adding that albatross to their campaign after the wonders she did for John McCain.

John McCain had his own problems, not the least of which was the consummate con-man that was Barack Obama. All Hope and Change and ZERO substance..

Plus Tina Fey is back on Saturday night live...

Maybe it's just me, but I doubt that Fey will influence the election much. Of course, all those on the Left just eat all that garbage up.. Which is why the country is in the shape it's in now..

Michale.....

http://www.mrc.org/specialreports/uploads/teapartytravesty.pdf

That's an in depth analysis of how the Left Wing MSM has treated the Tea Party movement.

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."
-Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

Michale.....

Chris, isn't it amazing how quickly the Samsara of Wacky incorporates new, contradictory information into the paranoid universe? The human mind is an awesome thing, capable of constructing whole new realities out of thin air.

Thank you for your concession that you have no logical or rational response and must therefore resort to childish and immature personal attacks.

Your concession of my superiority is appreciated, albeit irrelevant.

nypoet,

as a matter of fact, it would be very smart of the national GOP if they start running Crist for POTUS right now; he's the only R I can think of who would have a serious chance of beating Obama in 2012.

Oh come now...

Joey Buttafuco would have a serious chance of beating Obama in 2012...

Obama is no longer an "unknown" anymore... He has proven himself to be quite incompetent as a leader..

In the here and now, Sarah Palin could beat Obama for President..

That may change in the next 2+ years...

Then again, it may not...

Michale.....

No. Such acts by people are beyond pale. But we are talking about the tea party to which many of their members still can't decide whether Obama is Hitler or Stalin incarnate. Not exactly coming from the moral or intellectual high ground. So, do you have any proof that this is from more than low single digits percentage of democrats?

Assumes facts not in evidence..

I read last week that she has made about $12 million in speaking fees since leaving the governorship. A bit more that being governor pays...

Considering the hell and the expense that the Hysterical (and not so Hysterical) Left was putting the State of Alaska thru, she did the best thing for her state.

You got me there. Sarah Palin leaving Alaska was the best thing for the state. Not exactly a solid recommendation for higher office though...

Wanna put some quatloos on that?? :D

As many as you wish. She would not even survive the primary season and I can't see anyone adding that albatross to their campaign after the wonders she did for John McCain.

Plus Tina Fey is back on Saturday night live...

funny you should mention the crist-rubio primary, because the tea-party reaction to sb-6 (and crist's veto thereof) proves your point about the movement being decentralized.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/04/13/1576509/vetoing-teacher-bill-might-aid.html

after crist's veto, many people are seriously considering switching parties to vote in the primary, myself among them.

as a matter of fact, it would be very smart of the national GOP if they start running Crist for POTUS right now; he's the only R I can think of who would have a serious chance of beating Obama in 2012.

Chris, isn't it amazing how quickly the Samsara of Wacky incorporates new, contradictory information into the paranoid universe? The human mind is an awesome thing, capable of constructing whole new realities out of thin air.

So, you agree with me that such acts by Democrats is beyond the pale, no??

Palin is not running for anything except her personal fortune

Assumes facts not in evidence..

to which she is doing a very good job.

Yea, she always seems to do a good job no matter what she tries..

She quit the governorship mid-stream.

Considering the hell and the expense that the Hysterical (and not so Hysterical) Left was putting the State of Alaska thru, she did the best thing for her state.

AS A GOOD GOVERNOR SHOULD...

No higher political office for her...

Wanna put some quatloos on that?? :D

In for a penny, in for a pound, I always say.. :D

Michale.....

Still on that silly all democrats speak as one BS?

Palin is not running for anything except her personal fortune to which she is doing a very good job. She quit the governorship mid-stream. No higher political office for her...

As opposed to say, Democrats who'se ONLY "intelligent" response to the Tea Party is to infiltrate and make obscene and racist remarks???

Is that the kind of "intelligently argued points" you are referring to, BB?? :D

On another note, I was just was reading several articles about a Romney/Palin match-up in 2012..

I have to admit, the ticket does have a LOT of ziiinggg to it. :D

It's a sure bet to beat the Obama/Biden ticket. Even if Obama did the smart thing and jettison'ed Biden and put Hillary on the ticket, I don't think they could beat Romney/Palin..

The campaign slogans write themselves..

"Romeny/Palin. Howz that Hopey Changey thang working for ya'all??"

and

"Romney/Palin. THIS is what elections are for, Mr President!"

It's gonna be fun... :D

Michale.....

richard answered: re:Protesters are in the streets. They're waving signs, and chanting loudly. Some appear in outlandish dress, and even more have outlandish slogans written on their signs and banners. But, when you look a little closer, the group is ...

Too bad really. Though I don't agree with much of Ron Paul's platform, he was at least consistent in his rhetoric and his followers can intelligently argue their points. The usurpers on the other hand seem to rarely utter more than a few sentences with out a serious face palm moment.

I must have been looking at an older listings..

40% are Democrats or Independents.

The mistake, however, does nothing to lessen my point. It actually increases the validity of my point.

The GOP can stand to lose a few to the TP. The DP can't afford to lose ANY Dem or Independent to the TP.

The Tea Party will be worse for the Democratic Party than it will be for the Republican Party.

I think some rich right-wing groups were happy to be silent partners of the teabaggers. Do I misremember?

I don't believe you do..

Philosophically and ideologically, the Tea Party is MUCH closer to the GOP than it is to the Democratic Party..

That is why I say that the Tea Party is a bigger threat to the DP than to the GOP..

(as an aside... For those of ya'all who like the sexual connotations of "tea bagging", ya'all should be absolutely giddy by the "DP" designation to signify the Democratic Party. It's actually even MORE apropos... :D)

But, regardless of the rosy picture being painted for Democrats, the mid-terms are going to be a rout... :D

And I, for one, could NOT be happier..

Not because I have any real love for the GOP...

But, dammit, the Democrats don't DESERVE to be in charge..

When they went against the majority of Americans and said, "Screw you, we're going to do what's best for our Party and to hell with the country and to hell with you!!!", Democrats proved beyond ANY doubt that they are simply incapable of REAL leadership..

Call it wish-casting (and it probably is) but Democrats do not DESERVE to stay in power.

It's really that simple..

Michale.....

lenore answered: re:Tell us how you think President Barack Obama has handled the economic crisis so far. What's he done right? And what's he gotten wrong?...

(Sorry, I'm trying to deemphasize the part of that quote having to do with personalities and focus on the bankrollers.)

I was under the impression that the tea partiers were bein astroturfed almost from the very beginning by money-bag organizations led by the likes of Trent Lott and other former Republican congressional leadership. I think some rich right-wing groups were happy to be silent partners of the teabaggers. Do I misremember?

I think you're going to have to provide a citation to back up that one. And, please, a three-way breakdown, Dem, Ind, and GOP.

Osborne -

Ah, that's the poll I was looking for:

"The national breakdown of the Tea Party composition is 57 percent Republican, 28 percent Independent and 13 percent Democrat."

Thanks!

-CW

Chris, according to the right-wing site Newsmax this is incorrect.

But you miss one central point...

You elaborate quite eloquently about how the Tea Party is a threat to the GOP...

Yet, you forget one single telling point.

The majority of the Tea Party are not Republicans, but rather Democrats and Independents..

Therefore, if any Party is threatened by the a Tea Party surge, it's not the GOP, but rather the Democratic Party..

For it is the Democrats who count on the independents to fill out their ranks..

If Democrats lose 20% of their base, and ALL of the support from the Independents, it won't be the GOP who is crying in the Fruit Loops on 3 Nov 2010...

I await the anticipated response.. :D

Michale......