Comments on: Ad Hoc, Ad Loc, Quid Pro Quo

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:11:31 +0000

Okay, so this is the best I can do to add to our growing list ...

Argumentum ad Bidenitum
I'm right because the longest argument always wins, you poopy-head, you!

By: Chris Weigant

Chris Weigant — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:13:54 +0000

Or perhaps:

Argumentum ad vulcanum?

I'm right becase Spock says so.

Heh.

-CW

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:06:01 +0000

Michale,

>Here's the one you'll probably have to use more often...

Ad DeadOnBallusAccuratium
...it's an industry term, poopy head.

I like it! And, I'm gonna add it to the list. :D

By: nypoet22

nypoet22 — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:04:49 +0000

"Ad DeadOnBallusAccuratium ...it's an industry term, poopy head." LOL! thanks, vinny. how about: Argumentum ad peliculum i'm right because i can quote movies, ya hoser

By: Moderate

Moderate — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:22:14 +0000

Don't get me wrong, I certainly think healthy mergers and acquisitions can be a huge benefit to the consumer, but it's important that the focus be on what is in the best interests of the consumer, not what delivers the most profit to owners.

Competition, as you say, is the bedrock of capitalism, and for me the core goal ought to be to deliver the best for the consumer. The theory being that what is in the consumer's best interests will lead to more custom, and more customers mean more profit. Unfortunately the recent trend has been to increase margins and deliver lower quality output for the consumer, and that is unacceptable.

By: Hawk Owl

Hawk Owl — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:30:25 +0000

"Moderate" -- I agree with you completely. "Profit based" economy is the only choice, but that doesn't mean it's the perfect choice. I think I mentioned some time back that I vividly remember hearing Paul Samuelson make a similar observation, -- qualifyied it by remarking that the "opposite" of capitalism was not "socialism/communism," but rather oligopolies. It was, um, interesting to have that in the back of my mind during the [Clinton era] 90's as the mania for mergers & conglomerates swallowed up any real "competition," (the basis of a true capitalism) in pursuit of bigger & bigger profit dreams -- abetted by Senators who overturned the Glass - Steagall Act as archaic & irrelevant.

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:57:46 +0000

"We're not going to pass Healthcare with a 50 plus 1 majority."
-Senator Obama, on the Presidential Campaign trail.
http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-american-agenda-flashback-dems-should-not-pass-healthcare-with-a-50-plus-1-strategy

Another "Joe Wilson" moment.

Ya know, if that were Bush, ya'all would be screaming, "LIAR!!!!"... :D

Michale......

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:34:13 +0000

Liz,

Here's the one you'll probably have to use more often...

Ad DeadOnBallusAccuratium
...it's an industry term, poopy head.

Michale.....

By: Osborne Ink

Osborne Ink — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:26:07 +0000

Bookmarking.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 03:09:08 +0000

Michale and Moderate,

Just wanted to say that I'm going to be filing away all of these infinitely useful argumentum ads ... for future reference, ya know.

And, that goes for the translations, too!

Heh heh heh ...

By: Moderate

Moderate — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 00:53:22 +0000

profit-based economy was the only choice Of course a profit-based economy is the only choice; the problem is that a truly free market actually requires oversight to prevent oligopolies. Under President Clinton, government regulation dwindled to nothing. It's worth noting, however, that Greenspan saw the current crisis coming and warned Ben Bernanke of it, yet Mr Bernanke chose to sit on his hands and do nothing. I remember Greenspan uttering the "r" word back in February 2007.

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 00:23:12 +0000

Looks like CrapCare has got ANOTHER 'deadline'..

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a22f28c4-2626-11df-aff3-00144feabdc0.html

Any quatloo wagers as to whether or not it will be made?? :D

Michale.....

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:57:15 +0000

So, in the spirit of the "open thread" for today's comments, {perk} Open Thread???? >:D Michale.....

By: Hawk Owl

Hawk Owl — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:12:12 +0000

Certainly an icon of our (video) age ought to be the perfect example of what happens when all of the fallacies are stripped away and a mega-symbol is forced by events to nakedly admit "I was wrong." I'm thinking of Alan Greenspan in front of a Senate Hearing after the Wall Street melt-down. Pressed on how, for decades he had insisted that a profit-based economy was the only choice because the market and its pursuit of profit will ALWAYS self-correct any problems, Greenspan sweated, his eyes blinked, he wiped his forehead, his words fumbled until he finally said in a quavering voice: "I was wrong; I was wrong." No "ad ________" anything. Just the truth Ma'am" as Chris quoted Jack Webb saying recently.