Comments on: Pelosi Weighs In

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:19:39 +0000

- How do Birthers Fall in Love?

Had to throw that last one in there just for grins.

I put the Birthers in the same category as those who hysterically scream, "BUSH LIED!! BUSH LIED!!"..

While they may have a valid point here or there, overall their position is nothing but hysterical conspiracy-theorying...

Michale.....

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:33:59 +0000

I think we are all agreed that DunselCare won't fly without fly without the Health Insurance mandate.

Are we agreed on that?

Has anyone stopped to consider the possibility that such a Federal Mandate may be unconstitutional?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28463.html

What happens to DunselCare if there is no mandate?

Michale....

By: Osborne Ink

Osborne Ink — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:28:16 +0000

akadjian,

"More taxes to make us slaves" -- Molasses to Rum

By: akadjian

akadjian — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:51:17 +0000

@OsbourneInk

Health Care Reform, the musical - I luv it! I'd buy tickets.

And somehow I see a dance number like the Sharks vs. Jets.

A few potential songs ...
- 30 Million Uninsured and Counting
- Death Panels and Socialism
- Why do we care so much for you, Olympia Snowe?
- Get Off the Pot, Max Baucus
- The Public Option is Dead (No It's Not!)
- How do Birthers Fall in Love?

Had to throw that last one in there just for grins.
-David

By: BashiBazouk

BashiBazouk — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:07:23 +0000

No where did I mention Kansas not being part of the USA. I mentioned that since their internal politics is so messed up that no one really takes them seriously anymore.

Ahhh.. So your only concern is sticking it to the "Right".

Uh...try reading again. This has little to do with what I wrote. I said I want a good bill with flaws that can be fixed later than no bill at all. Sticking it to the right has more to do with political tactics than implied benefit.

I have never been a spokesman for the Obama administration. But if you have an inside track on the job, it probably pays more than I make now ;-)

Nice try though.

By: Michale

Michale — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:31:24 +0000

Congressional member's staff as usual? That's so 2008... :D Does anyone really care what Kansas does? After the denying evolution debacle they are kind of a laughing stockâ€¦ Gee and here I thought Kansas was part of these United States.. So much for Obama's claim that there are no RED States or Blue States, only UNITED States, eh?? Correct me if I am wrong, but they are STILL Americans, no?? Or has the Obama Administration put out the decree that Kansasans are "not really" Americans?? I musta missed that memo... Maybe, just maybe KirkCare will pass and be a fairly good change. Personally I don't mind a huge bill that does mostly good with some flaws. It forces the right in to the defensive as it will be a much tougher battle to get rid of the particular amendments and add-ons they don't like. They will have to pick their battles and compromise to get anything done. Ahhh.. So your only concern is sticking it to the "Right". Who cares what else the bill does, as long as the "Right" is on the defensive.. Does it matter to you that the "Right" you want to "stick it" to are also fellow Americans?? Hmmmmmm???? Michale.....

By: BashiBazouk

BashiBazouk — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:12:09 +0000

Wanna lay bets on who actually READS this thing?? Congressional member's staff as usual? On the other hand, we might see MANY instances of what Kansas is doing. Does anyone really care what Kansas does? After the denying evolution debacle they are kind of a laughing stock... READ MY LIPS!! NO NEW TAXES!! Uh...that was three administrations ago... Maybe, just maybe KirkCare will pass and be a fairly good change. Personally I don't mind a huge bill that does mostly good with some flaws. It forces the right in to the defensive as it will be a much tougher battle to get rid of the particular amendments and add-ons they don't like. They will have to pick their battles and compromise to get anything done. Better to over do it and then fine tune than do nothing at all IMHO.

By: Michale

Michale — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:44:56 +0000

Now, before I get in trouble for suggesting an image of the rather diminutive Nancy Pelosi on a scale to your minds, in this metaphor the legislation which Speaker Pelosi just released is what is actually on the scale. Pelosi, in this mental image, is the promoter in the background talking up the virtues of the prizefighter on the scales. Well, if you want to go with the "weigh in" metaphor, a print-out of the bill weighs more than 19 pounds and stands nearly nine inches tall. :D Wanna lay bets on who actually READS this thing?? Over in the Senate, Harry Reid has said that he's going for a nationwide public option (no mention of strong or weak, meaning it'll probably be weak), but with an "opt out" option for the individual states. Here's an interesting question? Why not go for an OPT IN Public Option? Rather than make states jump thru tons of hoops to opt OUT of a plan, it should be that states who WANT DunselCare can Opt IN... What could be more fair that that??? On the other hand, we might see MANY instances of what Kansas is doing. Kansas is proposing State Legislation that would make it not subject to DunselCare. How embarrassing it would be for the Obama Administration if many states did that, eh? :D As far as how to pay for it. Does anyone HONESTLY believe that those corporations who are being taxed to high heaven to pay for DunselCare will NOT pass on those costs to the taxpayer?? So, in the end, it will be the taxpayer who is fully and completely footing the bill for DunselCare. So much for "READ MY LIPS!! NO NEW TAXES!!"... Just another "lie" from the Obama Administration that will get a free pass.... I made a prediction a few weeks back where I said DunselCare would NOT be done by the end of the year. Everyone else was adamant in their belief that DunselCare WOULD be done by the end of the year. Anyone wanna revisit their wager? :D Michale....

By: Osborne Ink

Osborne Ink — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:50:14 +0000

A few years ago I performed as Charles Thompson in a production of 1776. As I read the script and researched the history of the Declaration of Independence, I was continually struck by what a near thing it was until the end, when it became unanimous. I was reminded of that again when the public option "rose from the dead" this week. The parallels are interesting. Yesterday, I ran into the musical director from that production and we got to talking about this. We're going to meet next week to talk about a libretto for "Health Care Reform: the Musical."