Personally, I think a MUCH better question is "What Is The Democrat Plan If There Is Another Attack That Dwarfs 9/11?"

But, we can save that question for another commentary.. :D

Since a tangent to TV is already established :D and since I mentioned 9/11 here is an interesting tid-bit of SciFi trivia...

On the new SciFi (I absolutely REFUSE to use that silly new moniker of theirs! SyFy. Indeed... ) Warehouse 13, here is a still from a scene...

http://anything-goes.us/temp/911.jpg

I posted this bit o trivia to the TV.COM Episode Guides forum and a moderator had the temerity to ask if there is any proof that this was not just some random coincidence. Go figger...

Anyways, back to economics and Republicans..

As an aside to CW, I dunno if you are still following your Beer Thread here.. But I just made an entry I think you and the missus will find interesting.. :D

Michale.....

I remember Homer singing "When I was seventeen, I drank a very good beer ..." to the Sinatra tune.

And, looking on the Internet there's a South Park beer song. But it is completely different and starts "What is the malted liquor, what gets you drunker quicker, what comes in bottles or in cans!"

Ren & Stimpy is a good guess as they often had short cartoon within cartoon bits. The one that sticks in my mind is "Log".

We need a famous cartoon beer songs list!

- David

You'll notice that, as always when talking about the economy, there are a lot of caveats in there from me.

Sho nuff.. Point conceded...

But I disagree about Obama's track record. I still say it is much too early to tell. When he introduced the stimulus, for instance, he always told his aircraft carrier story — how a powerboat can turn on a dime, but something the size of the American economy just can't. The question — and I still say it'll take approximately 6-12 more months to fully see the answer to it — is "is the economy turning?"

Will all the talk of a THIRD Stimulus package being needed, I would say the answer to that is "No"...

Much is made of the unemployment projections they made back then. But, every single time Obama talked about the economy in the first three months of his term, he always said "it's going to get worse before it gets better" and "this is going to take some time to fix."

If it is a given that Unemployment would continue to rise at the onset of an economic recovery, if it is common economic knowledge that this is true, then here's the thing.

Why did Obama make the claim that, if Congress passes the Second Stimulus, unemployment would remain below 8%??

Either Obama and his vaunted economic team were ignorant of this (now) common knowledge economic indicator or Obama lied to the American People to sell the second stimulus package.

Either way, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU THINK YOU ARE ENTITLED TO!!! Ooopss Sorry, off on a tangent.. :D

Seriously, either way, it doesn't say anything good about the Obama administration. It says that Obama and his team are liars or incompetent.

Chris, the leading indicators are in. The economy IS recovering. And what's more, by election time it will be clear that stimulus has an effect.

The ONLY indicator that indicates recovery is the Market rising above 9000.. Hardly enough to make such a grandiose prediction that recovery is right around the corner..

Michale.....

If you can remember individual Pinky and the Brain episodes, maybe you can answer me a question. When writing Monday's column, a cartoon clip flashed into my brain, but I cannot remember where it comes from.

It's shown on a TV inside the cartoon, and whatever the characters are watching on television breaks for a commercial. The commercial's entire text, sung in a catchy, upbeat tune, consists of:

"Beer, beer, beer! Beer beer beer!
Beer beer beer beer, beer beer beer!
(etc.)"

But I can't remember where it's from. Not Beavis & Butthead, I don't think, not the Simpsons (even the Simpsons are more subtle than that), but I can't quite place it. Ren & Stimpy, maybe? South Park? Any help?

-CW

[The moderator is warning me we're getting off thread, but I am ignoring such impertinence...]

Chris, the leading indicators are in. The economy IS recovering. And what's more, by election time it will be clear that stimulus has an effect.

The real questions are what long-term deals Obama has made with the banks...and I noticed this item earlier:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/28/house-panel-votes-in-favo_n_246541.html

And Brain responds: "The same thing we do every night. Try to takeover the world."

I always think to myself, surely Republicans will try to reform their message. And they do, they double down on extremism.

It will be interesting to see if they have finally driven a wedge between their extreme right-wing Christian base and the fiscal conservatives of the party.

- David

You'll notice that, as always when talking about the economy, there are a lot of caveats in there from me.

But I disagree about Obama's track record. I still say it is much too early to tell. When he introduced the stimulus, for instance, he always told his aircraft carrier story -- how a powerboat can turn on a dime, but something the size of the American economy just can't. The question -- and I still say it'll take approximately 6-12 more months to fully see the answer to it -- is "is the economy turning?"

Much is made of the unemployment projections they made back then. But, every single time Obama talked about the economy in the first three months of his term, he always said "it's going to get worse before it gets better" and "this is going to take some time to fix."

People ask me what I foresee for the midterms, and my answer is always the same -- it depends on the economy next summer. We'll see, we'll see...

-CW

I readily agree that, if the economy does turn around and we are all hunky dorky in 8-15 months, then the GOP will be devastated.. We will be looking at a Dem majority and a Dem in the White House for a long time to come, possibly for the rest of my life anyways...

BUT....

And, like my own, it's a BIG but... :D

The current Administration doesn't really have a track record in accurate prognostication. Time after time, the Obama Administration gave us a cup-is-half-full scenario and more often than not, the cup turned out to be not only spilled but shattered into pieces on the floor (Ooo watch yer step if yer barefoot!! :D)

So, while I freely acknowledge that the Republican Party would be utterly and completely nuked if the economy DOES become rosy in the next year or so, the chances of that actually happening are Slim and None and Slim just left....

Michale.....