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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2009/06/25/tax-plastic/#comment-5357</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;
Founded by British billionaire Sir Richard Branson, Virgin Galactic is a commercial space tourism company that plans to launch passengers on $200,000 trips to suborbital space using a fleet of SpaceShipTwo spacecraft.
&lt;/B&gt;
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529864,00.html


One has to wonder how many tons of pollution and carbon this nut is going to spew into the atmosphere...

It&#039;s like I have always said..

Since the science is clearly in dispute, one has to look at other factors. 

In this case, one must look at the actions of the biggest advocates of this Human Caused GoreBull Warming (Yet The Planet Is Cooling)..

Do they act like the end of the world is nigh??  Have they altered their lifestyle, their living arrangements or their attitudes ONE IOTA??

They have not...

Ergo, I will live like Al Gore and Richard Branson wants me to live as soon as Al Gore and Richard Branson live like Al Gore and Richard Branson want others to live.



Michale.....</description>
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Founded by British billionaire Sir Richard Branson, Virgin Galactic is a commercial space tourism company that plans to launch passengers on $200,000 trips to suborbital space using a fleet of SpaceShipTwo spacecraft.<br />
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<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529864,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529864,00.html</a></p>
<p>One has to wonder how many tons of pollution and carbon this nut is going to spew into the atmosphere...</p>
<p>It's like I have always said..</p>
<p>Since the science is clearly in dispute, one has to look at other factors. </p>
<p>In this case, one must look at the actions of the biggest advocates of this Human Caused GoreBull Warming (Yet The Planet Is Cooling)..</p>
<p>Do they act like the end of the world is nigh??  Have they altered their lifestyle, their living arrangements or their attitudes ONE IOTA??</p>
<p>They have not...</p>
<p>Ergo, I will live like Al Gore and Richard Branson wants me to live as soon as Al Gore and Richard Branson live like Al Gore and Richard Branson want others to live.</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2009/06/25/tax-plastic/#comment-5342</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, getting back to my original question.

Doesn&#039;t ANYONE have a problem with our elected representatives who pass bills and laws completely and utterly unread??

I know, I know... I am on record as saying that we elect our representatives and we should trust their judgment and there ability to do the right thing..

But this isn&#039;t a case of trusting judgment.  This is a case of our elected representatives voting YES on a bill that they (or their staff) have not read!!

That&#039;s simply irresponsible, regardless of ANY political affiliation.



Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, getting back to my original question.</p>
<p>Doesn't ANYONE have a problem with our elected representatives who pass bills and laws completely and utterly unread??</p>
<p>I know, I know... I am on record as saying that we elect our representatives and we should trust their judgment and there ability to do the right thing..</p>
<p>But this isn't a case of trusting judgment.  This is a case of our elected representatives voting YES on a bill that they (or their staff) have not read!!</p>
<p>That's simply irresponsible, regardless of ANY political affiliation.</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2009/06/25/tax-plastic/#comment-5340</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely correct, CW.

My mistake.  I should not have singled out Democrats because Republicans are the same way.

But, in THIS particular instance, the Republicans are on the correct side of the issue by wanting to delay things to give everyone a chance to read the monstrosity..


&lt;I&gt;That&#039;s what they have staff for. &lt;/I&gt;

Au contraire&#039;..  This bill has been worked, re-worked and worked again right up until the last minute.  This abomination swelled from 900 pages to over 1200 pages just in a half a day.

So, NO ONE had enough time to even read the whole thing, let alone actually understand what they were voting for. 

You have touched on the theme often about the public&#039;s complacency with regards to our elected leaders.

This is simply one of the sadder examples of that complacency.  

And, again, you are fully correct.  This is not a sole problem of the Democrats.  But the Democrats ARE (nearly) the super-majority Party in power now.  And, from all accounts, they are SUPPOSED to govern better than Republicans, no?   :D


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely correct, CW.</p>
<p>My mistake.  I should not have singled out Democrats because Republicans are the same way.</p>
<p>But, in THIS particular instance, the Republicans are on the correct side of the issue by wanting to delay things to give everyone a chance to read the monstrosity..</p>
<p><i>That's what they have staff for. </i></p>
<p>Au contraire'..  This bill has been worked, re-worked and worked again right up until the last minute.  This abomination swelled from 900 pages to over 1200 pages just in a half a day.</p>
<p>So, NO ONE had enough time to even read the whole thing, let alone actually understand what they were voting for. </p>
<p>You have touched on the theme often about the public's complacency with regards to our elected leaders.</p>
<p>This is simply one of the sadder examples of that complacency.  </p>
<p>And, again, you are fully correct.  This is not a sole problem of the Democrats.  But the Democrats ARE (nearly) the super-majority Party in power now.  And, from all accounts, they are SUPPOSED to govern better than Republicans, no?   :D</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2009/06/25/tax-plastic/#comment-5339</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michale -

Oh, please.  Nobody reads bills in full in Congress.  Not Democrats, not Republicans, nobody.  That&#039;s what they have staff for.  

I mean, you can decry the practice, but don&#039;t make it partisan, because it&#039;s not.  It&#039;s universal.

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michale -</p>
<p>Oh, please.  Nobody reads bills in full in Congress.  Not Democrats, not Republicans, nobody.  That's what they have staff for.  </p>
<p>I mean, you can decry the practice, but don't make it partisan, because it's not.  It's universal.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2009/06/25/tax-plastic/#comment-5337</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This simply boggles the mind.

Is there anyone out there who cares that not ONE SINGLE CongressCritter has read the Waxman-Malarky bill???

Democrats don&#039;t seem to mind being led around by their.....  noses.  As long as it&#039;s other Democrats doing the leading...

Why is that??

Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This simply boggles the mind.</p>
<p>Is there anyone out there who cares that not ONE SINGLE CongressCritter has read the Waxman-Malarky bill???</p>
<p>Democrats don't seem to mind being led around by their.....  noses.  As long as it's other Democrats doing the leading...</p>
<p>Why is that??</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2009/06/25/tax-plastic/#comment-5336</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Scheme &amp; Ream just passed the House 219 to 212

Hopefully, this huge tax abomination will be defeated in the Senate.



Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Scheme &amp; Ream just passed the House 219 to 212</p>
<p>Hopefully, this huge tax abomination will be defeated in the Senate.</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2009/06/25/tax-plastic/#comment-5333</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a totally unrelated note, I am simply stunned as to recent events in the entertainment world.  Three icons that defined generations have died in the past few days.

Ed McMahon

Farrah Fawcett

Michael Jackson

Their impact on their respective generations is undeniable.

It&#039;s a sobering reminder of one&#039;s own mortality when icons that one knows and grew up with start dying.


Michale.....


(Sorry, CW.  Didn&#039;t want to hijack your commentary, but I wanted to say something,  somewhere.  And since this is the only place I post, well.....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a totally unrelated note, I am simply stunned as to recent events in the entertainment world.  Three icons that defined generations have died in the past few days.</p>
<p>Ed McMahon</p>
<p>Farrah Fawcett</p>
<p>Michael Jackson</p>
<p>Their impact on their respective generations is undeniable.</p>
<p>It's a sobering reminder of one's own mortality when icons that one knows and grew up with start dying.</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
<p>(Sorry, CW.  Didn't want to hijack your commentary, but I wanted to say something,  somewhere.  And since this is the only place I post, well.....)</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2009/06/25/tax-plastic/#comment-5332</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with such heavy taxes on ANYTHING in the industry is that, ultimately, it&#039;s the end user that pays the tax, not the industry.

It&#039;s just like with the Scheme &amp; Ream (er.. sorry, the Cap &amp; Trade) that is coming up for vote today.  The industry won&#039;t be out a dime, but the end user will be shafted.

It&#039;s simple another way that the end user pays for the lavish lifestyle of the likes of Al Gore and Richard Branson. 

&lt;I&gt;Ah, but what if the tax was only applied to the raw materials used to make plastic items? What if there were no tax at all on recycled raw plastic material? Only virgin plastic would bear the cost of the tax. Meaning it would create a hefty incentive for all industries to find acceptible recycled materials. As well as a general incentive for everyone to use less plastic.&lt;/I&gt;

In a perfect world, maybe.  But you know and I know that the industry would still gouge the customers, even if they used all recycled items.  Their mentality would be that they CAN get away with charging more, even if they are not paying more so that is exactly what they will do.

And our Congress critters will be lead along by their ..... noses and pass all sorts of exemptions for the industry and once again, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer.

Everyone better pray that the Scheme &amp; Ream fails in the House today..


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with such heavy taxes on ANYTHING in the industry is that, ultimately, it's the end user that pays the tax, not the industry.</p>
<p>It's just like with the Scheme &amp; Ream (er.. sorry, the Cap &amp; Trade) that is coming up for vote today.  The industry won't be out a dime, but the end user will be shafted.</p>
<p>It's simple another way that the end user pays for the lavish lifestyle of the likes of Al Gore and Richard Branson. </p>
<p><i>Ah, but what if the tax was only applied to the raw materials used to make plastic items? What if there were no tax at all on recycled raw plastic material? Only virgin plastic would bear the cost of the tax. Meaning it would create a hefty incentive for all industries to find acceptible recycled materials. As well as a general incentive for everyone to use less plastic.</i></p>
<p>In a perfect world, maybe.  But you know and I know that the industry would still gouge the customers, even if they used all recycled items.  Their mentality would be that they CAN get away with charging more, even if they are not paying more so that is exactly what they will do.</p>
<p>And our Congress critters will be lead along by their ..... noses and pass all sorts of exemptions for the industry and once again, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer.</p>
<p>Everyone better pray that the Scheme &amp; Ream fails in the House today..</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: fstanley</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2009/06/25/tax-plastic/#comment-5330</link>
		<dc:creator>fstanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a good idea and should be part of the green energy bill that is on Obama&#039;s agenda.  I too think the whole bottled water industy is laughing at us on the way to the bank, however before we can give up our plastic/metal/glass bottles we need to invent a container to carry our water in that can be re-used and is not made from a product that is toxic to life and our planet.  

...Stan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a good idea and should be part of the green energy bill that is on Obama's agenda.  I too think the whole bottled water industy is laughing at us on the way to the bank, however before we can give up our plastic/metal/glass bottles we need to invent a container to carry our water in that can be re-used and is not made from a product that is toxic to life and our planet.  </p>
<p>...Stan</p>
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