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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2008/11/19/is-hillary-nomination-offer-a-red-herring/#comment-4171</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To everyone -

See today&#039;s post for a discussion on Hillary Clinton&#039;s eligibility to even take the job.  Complete with &quot;the Saxbe fix&quot; explained and everything...

-CW</description>
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<p>See today's post for a discussion on Hillary Clinton's eligibility to even take the job.  Complete with "the Saxbe fix" explained and everything...</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: BLaws</title>
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		<dc:creator>BLaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another reason I think this is Ted Kennedy offering her a point position on health care after this went down.  Seems to me he&#039;s trying to get her not to take it so that he can bail out Obama.  If Obama really wanted her as bad as they are trying to say, Kennedy wouldn&#039;t have even offered this to her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another reason I think this is Ted Kennedy offering her a point position on health care after this went down.  Seems to me he's trying to get her not to take it so that he can bail out Obama.  If Obama really wanted her as bad as they are trying to say, Kennedy wouldn't have even offered this to her.</p>
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		<title>By: BLaws</title>
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		<dc:creator>BLaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I think about it the more I&#039;m convinced it went like this:

Hillary was considered as one of many.  She wasn&#039;t given any priority.  She came to visit Obama just as Richardson and others did.

But that wasn&#039;t good enough for Hillary.  I&#039;m betting they intentionally leaked the meeting, and saying that &quot;Obama offered it if she wants it&quot; trying to box him in so he has to offer it.   All this drama and the leaks just make it seem more like her and her cronies are trying to force him to pick her, by making it a PR nightmare if he doesn&#039;t.

I&#039;m really hoping he uses this Constitutional conflict as a get out of jail free card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about it the more I'm convinced it went like this:</p>
<p>Hillary was considered as one of many.  She wasn't given any priority.  She came to visit Obama just as Richardson and others did.</p>
<p>But that wasn't good enough for Hillary.  I'm betting they intentionally leaked the meeting, and saying that "Obama offered it if she wants it" trying to box him in so he has to offer it.   All this drama and the leaks just make it seem more like her and her cronies are trying to force him to pick her, by making it a PR nightmare if he doesn't.</p>
<p>I'm really hoping he uses this Constitutional conflict as a get out of jail free card.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lumea</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2008/11/19/is-hillary-nomination-offer-a-red-herring/#comment-4168</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lumea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two more things that support your &quot;red herring&quot; theory:

&lt;b&gt;1&lt;/b&gt;

On Tuesday -- several days into the media speculation about Hillary as SoS -- Ted Kennedy announced that he had tapped Hillary to lead a Senate working group on health care. 

According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://kennedy.senate.gov/newsroom/press_release.cfm?id=b6904d7c-7046-4540-a26b-275e110e180c&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kennedy&#039;s statement:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Sen. Clinton [has] generously offered to step forward and assume an expanded role on critical aspects of health reform.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If Kennedy -- who, one assumes, is in regular contact with Obama -- believed that SoS Hillary was serious, is there any reason why he would do this now?

At the very least, Kennedy knows that Obama is likely to name his SoS pick within a week or two. Is there any reason why Kennedy couldn&#039;t just wait two weeks to make his own announcement?

Story &lt;a href=&quot;http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/kennedy-taps-clinton-for-big-health-reform-job-2008-11-18.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;here.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;b&gt;2&lt;/b&gt;

If you&#039;re Barack Obama, and you know that -- according to plan -- Hillary is about to politely decline your &quot;offer&quot;...

If you also know what media-connected Gender-Equity-in-the-Administration Scorekeepers know -- that (a) you&#039;ve thus far tapped only men for Cabinet and White House staff positions, and that (b) Hillary&#039;s announcement will seal State for a man, too...

Finally: If you know that, absent any other top-level gender equity cues from you, Hillary&#039;s announcement would be the Scorekeeper&#039;s cue to ramp up the pressure...

What better way to inoculate yourself than to preface Hillary&#039;s announcement with your own &quot;announcement&quot; that you want to put Janet Napolitano at Homeland Security and Penny Pritzker at Commerce?

Story &lt;a href=&quot;http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/20/arizona-governor-top-choice-for-homeland-security-sources-say/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;here&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; -- although it appears that Pritzker, for business reasons, might already be taking herself &lt;a href=&quot;http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/11/20/obama_insider_pritzker_is_fron.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;out of consideration.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two more things that support your "red herring" theory:</p>
<p><b>1</b></p>
<p>On Tuesday -- several days into the media speculation about Hillary as SoS -- Ted Kennedy announced that he had tapped Hillary to lead a Senate working group on health care. </p>
<p>According to <a href="http://kennedy.senate.gov/newsroom/press_release.cfm?id=b6904d7c-7046-4540-a26b-275e110e180c" rel="nofollow"><b>Kennedy's statement:</b></a> </p>
<blockquote><p>Sen. Clinton [has] generously offered to step forward and assume an expanded role on critical aspects of health reform.</p></blockquote>
<p>If Kennedy -- who, one assumes, is in regular contact with Obama -- believed that SoS Hillary was serious, is there any reason why he would do this now?</p>
<p>At the very least, Kennedy knows that Obama is likely to name his SoS pick within a week or two. Is there any reason why Kennedy couldn't just wait two weeks to make his own announcement?</p>
<p>Story <a href="http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/kennedy-taps-clinton-for-big-health-reform-job-2008-11-18.html" rel="nofollow"><b>here.</b></a> </p>
<p><b>2</b></p>
<p>If you're Barack Obama, and you know that -- according to plan -- Hillary is about to politely decline your "offer"...</p>
<p>If you also know what media-connected Gender-Equity-in-the-Administration Scorekeepers know -- that (a) you've thus far tapped only men for Cabinet and White House staff positions, and that (b) Hillary's announcement will seal State for a man, too...</p>
<p>Finally: If you know that, absent any other top-level gender equity cues from you, Hillary's announcement would be the Scorekeeper's cue to ramp up the pressure...</p>
<p>What better way to inoculate yourself than to preface Hillary's announcement with your own "announcement" that you want to put Janet Napolitano at Homeland Security and Penny Pritzker at Commerce?</p>
<p>Story <a href="http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/20/arizona-governor-top-choice-for-homeland-security-sources-say/" rel="nofollow"><b>here</b></a> -- although it appears that Pritzker, for business reasons, might already be taking herself <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/11/20/obama_insider_pritzker_is_fron.html" rel="nofollow"><b>out of consideration.</b></a></p>
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		<title>By: Osborne Ink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Osborne Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I think you&#039;re on to something. Something about the SoS offer to Hillary didn&#039;t seem right, and now I know what that was: she didn&#039;t accept immediately! The woman is not the type to &quot;think about it&quot; when given an opportunity like this. It&#039;s completely out of character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I think you're on to something. Something about the SoS offer to Hillary didn't seem right, and now I know what that was: she didn't accept immediately! The woman is not the type to "think about it" when given an opportunity like this. It's completely out of character.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CW,

Here is the link to &#039;Madame Secretary&#039;, by TF...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19friedman.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin

And, as for the &#039;increased emoluments&#039;...just please tell me that Biden didn&#039;t vote for it, too...okay!? Geesh. 

Because, you know, that&#039;s not exactly the kind of constitutional prohibition that would preclude the VP-elect from also being SoS I&#039;ve been worried about. Let me know if you come across anything else that might prevent such an outcome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CW,</p>
<p>Here is the link to 'Madame Secretary', by TF...</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19friedman.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19friedman.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin</a></p>
<p>And, as for the 'increased emoluments'...just please tell me that Biden didn't vote for it, too...okay!? Geesh. </p>
<p>Because, you know, that's not exactly the kind of constitutional prohibition that would preclude the VP-elect from also being SoS I've been worried about. Let me know if you come across anything else that might prevent such an outcome!</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CW

&lt;I&gt;

Update -

Here&#039;s a link to what BLaws is talking about.

-CW
&lt;/I&gt;


WOW!!

Over 12 THOUSAND comments on that piece..  That has GOT to be some kind of record.

I was kind of bummed, though that they didn&#039;t cover the constitutional conflict much other than mentioning that it exists.

It will be interesting to hear the argument from that...  Considering the high regard the US Constitution is held in other matters... 


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CW</p>
<p><i></p>
<p>Update -</p>
<p>Here's a link to what BLaws is talking about.</p>
<p>-CW<br />
</i></p>
<p>WOW!!</p>
<p>Over 12 THOUSAND comments on that piece..  That has GOT to be some kind of record.</p>
<p>I was kind of bummed, though that they didn't cover the constitutional conflict much other than mentioning that it exists.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to hear the argument from that...  Considering the high regard the US Constitution is held in other matters... </p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2008/11/19/is-hillary-nomination-offer-a-red-herring/#comment-4163</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth -

Speaking of links, how about a link to that Friedman article?  Inquiring minds want to know...

:-)

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth -</p>
<p>Speaking of links, how about a link to that Friedman article?  Inquiring minds want to know...</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update -

Here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/13/hillary-clinton-secretary_n_143735.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a link&lt;/a&gt; to what BLaws is talking about.

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update -</p>
<p>Here's <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/13/hillary-clinton-secretary_n_143735.html" rel="nofollow">a link</a> to what BLaws is talking about.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth -

BLaws is talking about a possible problem that I haven&#039;t yet researched -- Hillary voted to increase the pay of cabinet members this term.  Which means, by the letter of the law (the Constitution), she is ineligible to take a cabinet position until her current Senate term is up (in 2012, I believe).  But there may be a loophole... which, as I said, I haven&#039;t researched yet...

kevinem2 -

I&#039;d never get past vetting.  But I&#039;d love to be Secretary Of Telling Everyone What To Do, I have to admit in all honesty.  Or maybe Secretary Of I&#039;m Surprised I Have To Explain This Stuff.  Heh.  heh heh.

:-)

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth -</p>
<p>BLaws is talking about a possible problem that I haven't yet researched -- Hillary voted to increase the pay of cabinet members this term.  Which means, by the letter of the law (the Constitution), she is ineligible to take a cabinet position until her current Senate term is up (in 2012, I believe).  But there may be a loophole... which, as I said, I haven't researched yet...</p>
<p>kevinem2 -</p>
<p>I'd never get past vetting.  But I'd love to be Secretary Of Telling Everyone What To Do, I have to admit in all honesty.  Or maybe Secretary Of I'm Surprised I Have To Explain This Stuff.  Heh.  heh heh.</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: kevinem2</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevinem2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dammit Chris, every once and a while you write something that makes me think &quot;Obama, please put Chris into your cabinet simply because he&#039;s my kind of thoughtful people&quot;....:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dammit Chris, every once and a while you write something that makes me think "Obama, please put Chris into your cabinet simply because he's my kind of thoughtful people"....:)</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BLaws,

I gotta tell ya...that was about as clear as mud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BLaws,</p>
<p>I gotta tell ya...that was about as clear as mud.</p>
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		<title>By: BLaws</title>
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		<dc:creator>BLaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even bigger wrinkle in your theory....

Apparently the Constitution! may prohibit Hillary from taking the SoState position or any other cabinet post.  It would also block a few other Senators.

&quot;No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even bigger wrinkle in your theory....</p>
<p>Apparently the Constitution! may prohibit Hillary from taking the SoState position or any other cabinet post.  It would also block a few other Senators.</p>
<p>"No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office."</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, thatâ€™s what I would call a â€˜thick and juicyâ€™ analysis - you know, something to really sink your teeth into. Believe me, Iâ€™ve read more than a few essays attempting to read the tea leaves but your take on this provides a very well reasoned and unique perspective  - lack of hard facts, notwithstanding. 

I would say that your scenario and premise could be reasonably based simply upon the conduct of Hillary Clinton throughout this entire presidential primary, election, and transition process - not to mention the behavior of her husband. In other words, your scenario seems perfectly logical to me and is a powerful argument against her nomination as Secretary of State.

My own thinking on this has - how shall I say - â€˜evolvedâ€™. Well, what I really mean is that my favourite NYTimes columnist, Tom Friedman, has recently reminded me about what is most important here. The important question to be considered, he suggests, is not whether Hillary Clinton is qualified for the position but rather what kind of relationship she would have with President Obama. And, her effectiveness as Secretary of State would be dependent upon how her relationship with the president is perceived by the world leaders with whom she will interact. 

If these world leaders view her relationship with the president as genuine and one that is based on trust, then they will believe that she is a true representative of the president and know that when they speak with her they are, in essence, communicating with the President. Hillary Clinton could be a very effective diplomat if this kind of relationship with Barack Obama actually exists.

But, thereâ€™s the rub. I donâ€™t believe for a second that the relationship between Senator Clinton and President-elect Obama is one that is either genuine or based on trust. And, I would bet that many world leaders may believe that, too - or become convinced of it over time. Because, a relationship like this that operates at such a high level is not the kind of thing that can be successfully portrayed as something that it is not.

By the way, I donâ€™t suppose you would know of anything in the constitution - or otherwise - that would preclude the VP-elect from also being nominated as the next Secretary of State, would you? After all, there is no one more qualified for the job and his relationship with the President-elect is nothing if not genuine and based on trust and respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, thatâ€™s what I would call a â€˜thick and juicyâ€™ analysis - you know, something to really sink your teeth into. Believe me, Iâ€™ve read more than a few essays attempting to read the tea leaves but your take on this provides a very well reasoned and unique perspective  - lack of hard facts, notwithstanding. </p>
<p>I would say that your scenario and premise could be reasonably based simply upon the conduct of Hillary Clinton throughout this entire presidential primary, election, and transition process - not to mention the behavior of her husband. In other words, your scenario seems perfectly logical to me and is a powerful argument against her nomination as Secretary of State.</p>
<p>My own thinking on this has - how shall I say - â€˜evolvedâ€™. Well, what I really mean is that my favourite NYTimes columnist, Tom Friedman, has recently reminded me about what is most important here. The important question to be considered, he suggests, is not whether Hillary Clinton is qualified for the position but rather what kind of relationship she would have with President Obama. And, her effectiveness as Secretary of State would be dependent upon how her relationship with the president is perceived by the world leaders with whom she will interact. </p>
<p>If these world leaders view her relationship with the president as genuine and one that is based on trust, then they will believe that she is a true representative of the president and know that when they speak with her they are, in essence, communicating with the President. Hillary Clinton could be a very effective diplomat if this kind of relationship with Barack Obama actually exists.</p>
<p>But, thereâ€™s the rub. I donâ€™t believe for a second that the relationship between Senator Clinton and President-elect Obama is one that is either genuine or based on trust. And, I would bet that many world leaders may believe that, too - or become convinced of it over time. Because, a relationship like this that operates at such a high level is not the kind of thing that can be successfully portrayed as something that it is not.</p>
<p>By the way, I donâ€™t suppose you would know of anything in the constitution - or otherwise - that would preclude the VP-elect from also being nominated as the next Secretary of State, would you? After all, there is no one more qualified for the job and his relationship with the President-elect is nothing if not genuine and based on trust and respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For election junkies --

Al Franken&#039;s recount has started.  Check it out &lt;a href=&quot;http://ww2.startribune.com/news/metro/elections/returns/2008/recount/msenco.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; -- because of ballot challenges, both candidates are losing votes, and Franken is currently only 181 votes behind (down from 215).  But this process is going to take days and days, so check back to it often.

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For election junkies --</p>
<p>Al Franken's recount has started.  Check it out <a href="http://ww2.startribune.com/news/metro/elections/returns/2008/recount/msenco.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> -- because of ballot challenges, both candidates are losing votes, and Franken is currently only 181 votes behind (down from 215).  But this process is going to take days and days, so check back to it often.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: fstanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>fstanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think that the &quot;offer&quot; to Hilary may be part of some deal she has with P-E Obama since it does seem like a big risk for her to take.  However, I did see on line somewhere ( CNN - I think) that Bill had agreed to some kind of vetting so who really knows what is going on.

...Stan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think that the "offer" to Hilary may be part of some deal she has with P-E Obama since it does seem like a big risk for her to take.  However, I did see on line somewhere ( CNN - I think) that Bill had agreed to some kind of vetting so who really knows what is going on.</p>
<p>...Stan</p>
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