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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2008/10/16/final-debate-review/#comment-3887</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are now 13 States where ACORN is being investigated for Voter Registration Fraud.

I propose a contest..

Let&#039;s see how many states it gets to, where ACORN is being investigated for Voter Registration Fraud, before ya&#039;all concede, &quot;Hmmmmm Maybe something untoward IS going on here....&quot;

I put my &quot;bet&quot; at 46 states.

It&#039;s going to take Acorn Investigations in FORTY SIX different states before ya&#039;all concede that there IS something amiss here...


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are now 13 States where ACORN is being investigated for Voter Registration Fraud.</p>
<p>I propose a contest..</p>
<p>Let's see how many states it gets to, where ACORN is being investigated for Voter Registration Fraud, before ya'all concede, "Hmmmmm Maybe something untoward IS going on here...."</p>
<p>I put my "bet" at 46 states.</p>
<p>It's going to take Acorn Investigations in FORTY SIX different states before ya'all concede that there IS something amiss here...</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2008/10/16/final-debate-review/#comment-3885</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@BLaws

&lt;I&gt;a few lazy ass individuals are making bogus registrations to milk a paycheck. &lt;/I&gt;

How you can post that with a straight face is beyond me..

One or two people in one or two states MIGHT be a &quot;lazy ass&quot; problem.

Dozens of individuals in almost a DOZEN states is more of an institutional issue..

Like I mentioned before if, instead of Voter Fraud, you had ALL these reports of vandalism to Dem Election offices, you people would be screaming about a co-ordinated effort by the GOP to sabotage Democrats.

I DARE you to deny it...  :D

Hell, we had TWO (count them...  TWO   T  W  O) assaults on liberals 15 days apart by individuals who followed closely Right Wing &quot;Hate&quot; Radio and a whole HERD of Democrats were screaming about conspiracies and serial attacks on liberals and co-ordinated efforts by the GOP..

TWO incidents, more than two weeks apart and Democrats country wide were screaming CONSPIRACY....

NOW.....

Now, we have  HUNDREDS of reports of fraud, all within 10 days covering ELEVEN states across the nation involving hundreds of people...

And YOU want to claim, &quot;Eh.. Isolated cases&quot;....

Seriously, you have GOT to be kidding me??

You REALLY believe what you are posting???


Michale..... 


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BLaws</p>
<p><i>a few lazy ass individuals are making bogus registrations to milk a paycheck. </i></p>
<p>How you can post that with a straight face is beyond me..</p>
<p>One or two people in one or two states MIGHT be a "lazy ass" problem.</p>
<p>Dozens of individuals in almost a DOZEN states is more of an institutional issue..</p>
<p>Like I mentioned before if, instead of Voter Fraud, you had ALL these reports of vandalism to Dem Election offices, you people would be screaming about a co-ordinated effort by the GOP to sabotage Democrats.</p>
<p>I DARE you to deny it...  :D</p>
<p>Hell, we had TWO (count them...  TWO   T  W  O) assaults on liberals 15 days apart by individuals who followed closely Right Wing "Hate" Radio and a whole HERD of Democrats were screaming about conspiracies and serial attacks on liberals and co-ordinated efforts by the GOP..</p>
<p>TWO incidents, more than two weeks apart and Democrats country wide were screaming CONSPIRACY....</p>
<p>NOW.....</p>
<p>Now, we have  HUNDREDS of reports of fraud, all within 10 days covering ELEVEN states across the nation involving hundreds of people...</p>
<p>And YOU want to claim, "Eh.. Isolated cases"....</p>
<p>Seriously, you have GOT to be kidding me??</p>
<p>You REALLY believe what you are posting???</p>
<p>Michale..... </p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2008/10/16/final-debate-review/#comment-3884</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BLaws -

Too busy to answer everyone&#039;s comments now (it&#039;s FTP day, gotta get writing!), but just wanted to say thanks for debunking that Colombia thing.  It just didn&#039;t pass the smell test when I heard it.

I promise I&#039;ll come back later and address the rest of the comments, just wanted to say thanks for BLaws going above and beyond the call of duty here.

Oh, and kevinem2, thanks, I&#039;ll correct it.  That&#039;s what I get for overreliance on the spell checker!

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BLaws -</p>
<p>Too busy to answer everyone's comments now (it's FTP day, gotta get writing!), but just wanted to say thanks for debunking that Colombia thing.  It just didn't pass the smell test when I heard it.</p>
<p>I promise I'll come back later and address the rest of the comments, just wanted to say thanks for BLaws going above and beyond the call of duty here.</p>
<p>Oh, and kevinem2, thanks, I'll correct it.  That's what I get for overreliance on the spell checker!</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2008/10/16/final-debate-review/#comment-3883</link>
		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone watch McCain and Obama at the charity fundraiser last night?

Who knew Obama was good at stand up? He was hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone watch McCain and Obama at the charity fundraiser last night?</p>
<p>Who knew Obama was good at stand up? He was hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: BLaws</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2008/10/16/final-debate-review/#comment-3882</link>
		<dc:creator>BLaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michale

For someone who rails against people making hysterical, illogical, and non-factual arguments, you just posted something, that if anyone else posted you would have torn apart with 1000&#039;s posts.

ACORN itself is not attempting to stack the rolls at all, a few lazy ass individuals are making bogus registrations to milk a paycheck.  ACORN is REQUIRED to turn those false, or faulty, registrations in anyway.  They do so by law, and flag them saying they are phony.

Now, clearly the WSJ and you are implying that &quot;stack the voter rolls&quot; means something underhanded.  But the reality is that the GOP has ADMITTED that keeping turn out and registrations down favors them due to most unregistered people are typically Democratic in nature, while Republicans are far more committed to registering and voting year after year.

If we had 100% turn out, all legitimate voting in this country, the Republicans wouldn&#039;t win a national election.  Which is why they try to suppress turn out and attempt to purge voter rolls.

They&#039;ve flat out admitted it quite a few times.  And you are smart enough to know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michale</p>
<p>For someone who rails against people making hysterical, illogical, and non-factual arguments, you just posted something, that if anyone else posted you would have torn apart with 1000's posts.</p>
<p>ACORN itself is not attempting to stack the rolls at all, a few lazy ass individuals are making bogus registrations to milk a paycheck.  ACORN is REQUIRED to turn those false, or faulty, registrations in anyway.  They do so by law, and flag them saying they are phony.</p>
<p>Now, clearly the WSJ and you are implying that "stack the voter rolls" means something underhanded.  But the reality is that the GOP has ADMITTED that keeping turn out and registrations down favors them due to most unregistered people are typically Democratic in nature, while Republicans are far more committed to registering and voting year after year.</p>
<p>If we had 100% turn out, all legitimate voting in this country, the Republicans wouldn't win a national election.  Which is why they try to suppress turn out and attempt to purge voter rolls.</p>
<p>They've flat out admitted it quite a few times.  And you are smart enough to know that.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2008/10/16/final-debate-review/#comment-3881</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@BLaws

&lt;I&gt;This is a long-time goal of Acorn and others on the &quot;community organizer&quot; left and would make it far easier to stack the voter rolls.&lt;/I&gt;

So, you are saying that it&#039;s a GOOD thing that Democrats will be able to &quot;stack&quot; the voter rolls? 

Much like we are seeing ACORN do today at the STATE Level.

OK, I admit it.. Maybe I am a dumbarse..

We have situation where a Political Party is taking TWO separate and distinct actions.

Action #1:  Stuff or &quot;Stack&quot; voter registrations with hundreds of thousands of fake, phony and &quot;dead&quot; people.

Action #2:  Make it so that there are NO I.D. checks at voter stations.


Now, I have been involved in LEO and Security for nearly a quarter century..

But it doesn&#039;t take ANY kind of LE experience to realize that those two actions are the recipe for stealing an election.

How can ANYONE who is logical and rational not make the connection??


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BLaws</p>
<p><i>This is a long-time goal of Acorn and others on the "community organizer" left and would make it far easier to stack the voter rolls.</i></p>
<p>So, you are saying that it's a GOOD thing that Democrats will be able to "stack" the voter rolls? </p>
<p>Much like we are seeing ACORN do today at the STATE Level.</p>
<p>OK, I admit it.. Maybe I am a dumbarse..</p>
<p>We have situation where a Political Party is taking TWO separate and distinct actions.</p>
<p>Action #1:  Stuff or "Stack" voter registrations with hundreds of thousands of fake, phony and "dead" people.</p>
<p>Action #2:  Make it so that there are NO I.D. checks at voter stations.</p>
<p>Now, I have been involved in LEO and Security for nearly a quarter century..</p>
<p>But it doesn't take ANY kind of LE experience to realize that those two actions are the recipe for stealing an election.</p>
<p>How can ANYONE who is logical and rational not make the connection??</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: BLaws</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2008/10/16/final-debate-review/#comment-3880</link>
		<dc:creator>BLaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this one...

&lt;i&gt;- Free speech and voting rights. A liberal supermajority would move quickly to impose procedural advantages that could cement Democratic rule for years to come. One early effort would be national, election-day voter registration. This is a long-time goal of Acorn and others on the &quot;community organizer&quot; left and would make it far easier to stack the voter rolls. The District of Columbia would also get votes in Congress -- Democratic, naturally.&lt;/i&gt;

So they are nearly flat out saying that they support NOT allowing all people the ability to vote because it would not benefit them since they are in the minority for party support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this one...</p>
<p><i>- Free speech and voting rights. A liberal supermajority would move quickly to impose procedural advantages that could cement Democratic rule for years to come. One early effort would be national, election-day voter registration. This is a long-time goal of Acorn and others on the "community organizer" left and would make it far easier to stack the voter rolls. The District of Columbia would also get votes in Congress -- Democratic, naturally.</i></p>
<p>So they are nearly flat out saying that they support NOT allowing all people the ability to vote because it would not benefit them since they are in the minority for party support.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2008/10/16/final-debate-review/#comment-3878</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something I alluded to before in another thread..

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html

Some of that doesn&#039;t sound bad for me, personally..  



Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something I alluded to before in another thread..</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html</a></p>
<p>Some of that doesn't sound bad for me, personally..  </p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: BLaws</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2008/10/16/final-debate-review/#comment-3877</link>
		<dc:creator>BLaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is Columbia really the largest importer of American agricultural products in the world, as McCain stated? Something I haven&#039;t seen fact-checked yet, but which somehow rings untrue to me. But I could be wrong, which is why I&#039;d like to see someone dig into it, personally.&lt;/i&gt;

calendar year 2007, measured in terms of value in US$:

Country
World Total 89,907,538,204
1 Canada 14,003,843,443
2 Mexico 12,703,911,353
3 Japan 10,104,053,574
4 European Union 8,770,156,617
5 China 8,313,857,408
6 South Korea 3,517,712,913
7 Taiwan 3,112,112,657
8 Egypt 1,801,450,233
9 Indonesia 1,541,886,706
10 Turkey 1,488,891,146
11 Russian Federation 1,328,541,016
12 Colombia 1,221,724,921
13 Hong Kong 1,167,847,169
14 Philippines 1,112,163,369
15 Thailand 869,590,833

http://www.ers.usda.gov/Data/FATUS/DATA/Xcytop15.xls</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Is Columbia really the largest importer of American agricultural products in the world, as McCain stated? Something I haven't seen fact-checked yet, but which somehow rings untrue to me. But I could be wrong, which is why I'd like to see someone dig into it, personally.</i></p>
<p>calendar year 2007, measured in terms of value in US$:</p>
<p>Country<br />
World Total 89,907,538,204<br />
1 Canada 14,003,843,443<br />
2 Mexico 12,703,911,353<br />
3 Japan 10,104,053,574<br />
4 European Union 8,770,156,617<br />
5 China 8,313,857,408<br />
6 South Korea 3,517,712,913<br />
7 Taiwan 3,112,112,657<br />
8 Egypt 1,801,450,233<br />
9 Indonesia 1,541,886,706<br />
10 Turkey 1,488,891,146<br />
11 Russian Federation 1,328,541,016<br />
12 Colombia 1,221,724,921<br />
13 Hong Kong 1,167,847,169<br />
14 Philippines 1,112,163,369<br />
15 Thailand 869,590,833</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ers.usda.gov/Data/FATUS/DATA/Xcytop15.xls" rel="nofollow">http://www.ers.usda.gov/Data/FATUS/DATA/Xcytop15.xls</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2008/10/16/final-debate-review/#comment-3875</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kevinem2

&lt;I&gt;If so, that&#039;s a pretty strong argument that McCain&#039;s memory is shot. 
&lt;/I&gt;

Yea...  And Joe Biden thinks that JOBS is a three letter word..   So, I guess Biden&#039;s analytical ability is &quot;shot&quot;, right??


@Ink

&lt;I&gt;he&#039;s got family connections to McCain via the Keating Five scandal,&lt;/I&gt;

Yea...  And Obama has &quot;family connections&quot; to Cheney.  So???


Come on, people!  You guys sound so petty and childish.  Grow up already...



@CW

&lt;I&gt;Anyone who remembers Bush v. Gore will be rolling around on the floor laughing at this, but at this point, &lt;/I&gt;

Actually, it has me remembering the 2006 Elections when Dems were screaming DIEBOLD months before the election...  And I am not laughing, I am shaking my head sadly...




Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kevinem2</p>
<p><i>If so, that's a pretty strong argument that McCain's memory is shot.<br />
</i></p>
<p>Yea...  And Joe Biden thinks that JOBS is a three letter word..   So, I guess Biden's analytical ability is "shot", right??</p>
<p>@Ink</p>
<p><i>he's got family connections to McCain via the Keating Five scandal,</i></p>
<p>Yea...  And Obama has "family connections" to Cheney.  So???</p>
<p>Come on, people!  You guys sound so petty and childish.  Grow up already...</p>
<p>@CW</p>
<p><i>Anyone who remembers Bush v. Gore will be rolling around on the floor laughing at this, but at this point, </i></p>
<p>Actually, it has me remembering the 2006 Elections when Dems were screaming DIEBOLD months before the election...  And I am not laughing, I am shaking my head sadly...</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John McCain may have stumbled over one attempt to stick it to Joe Biden, but...

One of his statements, in this regard, practically jumped out of the TeeVee...and hit me right smack between the eyeballs! Senator McCain said that Joe Biden was dead wrong on Iraq...and foreign policy and national security...etc. etc. and then said he came up with â€œa cockamamie plan to divide Iraq into three countriesâ€...all of it UNCHALLENGED by ANYONE! 

I believe those were the only words spoken on foreign policy - in fact, it happened so fast I wasnâ€™t sure what hit me or if I was just having a mini waking nightmare.

Iâ€™ll tell you what...If John McCain really believes that Senator Biden has been wrong on Iraq, foreign policy and national security, and that the Biden strategy for promoting a sustainable political settlement based on federalism and Iraq&#039;s constitution is about &quot;dividing Iraq into three countries&quot; then, on that basis alone, John McCain is truly unqualified and unfit to be the next POTUS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John McCain may have stumbled over one attempt to stick it to Joe Biden, but...</p>
<p>One of his statements, in this regard, practically jumped out of the TeeVee...and hit me right smack between the eyeballs! Senator McCain said that Joe Biden was dead wrong on Iraq...and foreign policy and national security...etc. etc. and then said he came up with â€œa cockamamie plan to divide Iraq into three countriesâ€...all of it UNCHALLENGED by ANYONE! </p>
<p>I believe those were the only words spoken on foreign policy - in fact, it happened so fast I wasnâ€™t sure what hit me or if I was just having a mini waking nightmare.</p>
<p>Iâ€™ll tell you what...If John McCain really believes that Senator Biden has been wrong on Iraq, foreign policy and national security, and that the Biden strategy for promoting a sustainable political settlement based on federalism and Iraq's constitution is about "dividing Iraq into three countries" then, on that basis alone, John McCain is truly unqualified and unfit to be the next POTUS.</p>
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		<title>By: Osborne Ink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Osborne Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Zero&quot; was the defining moment of the night. McCain has been confusing Obama&#039;s health care plan with Hillary&#039;s. As you say, the lack of homework showed -- for eleven seconds of jaw-hanging shock on McCain&#039;s face. It was the most damaging moment of the evening...especially since &quot;Joe the Plumber&quot; was supposed to be McCain&#039;s new comeback strategy.

Speaking of &quot;Joe,&quot; his name isn&#039;t Joe. It&#039;s Samuel. And he&#039;s not a plumber, he&#039;s in no position to buy a business, he&#039;s got family connections to McCain via the Keating Five scandal, and he was a setup from the start. The October Surprise has been carried out with Bush-like incompetence. Check it out:

http://www.osborneink.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Zero" was the defining moment of the night. McCain has been confusing Obama's health care plan with Hillary's. As you say, the lack of homework showed -- for eleven seconds of jaw-hanging shock on McCain's face. It was the most damaging moment of the evening...especially since "Joe the Plumber" was supposed to be McCain's new comeback strategy.</p>
<p>Speaking of "Joe," his name isn't Joe. It's Samuel. And he's not a plumber, he's in no position to buy a business, he's got family connections to McCain via the Keating Five scandal, and he was a setup from the start. The October Surprise has been carried out with Bush-like incompetence. Check it out:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.osborneink.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.osborneink.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: kevinem2</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevinem2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris-

    Just a few things...Colombia, not Columbia. I kept muting my TV and missed the Kennedy-Goldwater part. Were you pointing out that they never ran against each other or did McCain actually say that? If so, that&#039;s a pretty strong argument that McCain&#039;s memory is shot. As an 11 year old Canadian during the 1964 election, even I would have known that was wrong. Anyhow, sorry about the nitpicking, I enjoyed the post as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris-</p>
<p>    Just a few things...Colombia, not Columbia. I kept muting my TV and missed the Kennedy-Goldwater part. Were you pointing out that they never ran against each other or did McCain actually say that? If so, that's a pretty strong argument that McCain's memory is shot. As an 11 year old Canadian during the 1964 election, even I would have known that was wrong. Anyhow, sorry about the nitpicking, I enjoyed the post as usual.</p>
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