You're absolutely right - we are spoiled here at CW's site. And, I don't know about you but I've always taken no small amount of pride in counting myself as part of the minority!

As for the Biden replacement crowd...every once in a while a post at HP just makes you laugh out loud. Here's one of 'em...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-ostroy/why-replacing-biden-with_b_126234.html

We're spoiled here on CW's site.. But, for every http://www.chrisweigant.com there are 3 or 4 DailyKos, Taylor Marsh or Huffington Post sites that spew the kind of quotes and attitudes outlined above....

In other words, the Democrats represented here at CW's site are the exceptions that prove the rule...

Michale.....

:D Actually, the afore post was a SUBSEQUENT post to my post that listed quotes and references, etc etc. But, since it had multiple URLs posted, it's in Queue for the almighty to approve it. :D

However, I more concerned right now with the movement to replace Joe Biden with Hillary Clinton. :rolleyes:

Really!!???

Got a reference???

Michale.....

I am also surprised that you would make such a sweeping generalization about "today's Democrats"...but, you could probably say that about a good number of them.

However, I more concerned right now with the movement to replace Joe Biden with Hillary Clinton. :rolleyes:

“You want to know the honest truth? I think she’s like a bad actor from a B-list sex movie,”
-Paula Vanbuskirk Obama-supporting independent

"Sarah Palin's top qualification seems to be not having had an abortion."
-Carol Fowler, SC Democratic Party chairwoman

The Fowlers seem to be intent on derailing Obama. Carol's husband, Don Fowler, was recorded as saying that Hurricane Gustav proved that "god was on their(Democrats) side"

Now, I know you can claim that these are isolated statements and you would be right as far as you go. But these statements DO reflect the general mood of the Democratic Party.

Maybe it's time to polish off that old term, "NeoDems"..

Because today's Democrats are nothing but a pale imitation of Republicans.

Michale.....

Here is an example..

http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/09/04/palins-children-should-take-priority-over-being-vice-president/

The opinions expressed in that article are shared by many Democrats..

MSNBC's Norah O'Donell has given voice to the idea that Sarah Palin would be neglecting her child if she accepts the Republican vice presidential nomination. Of course, she does this by cloaking the question in the imaginary third person "some people are saying."
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/09/03/mother-three-odonnell-worried-about-palins-neglected-kids

"The baby is just slightly more than four months old now. Children with Down's syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of Vice President, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?"

-John Roberts, CNN

"Not only do we have a woman with five children, including an infant with special needs, but a woman whose 17-year-old child will need her even more in the coming months. Not to mention the grandchild. This would inevitably be an enormous distraction for a new vice president (or president) in a time of global turmoil."
-Howard Gutman
National Finance Committee For Senator Obama
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/obama-campaign.html

That takes care of the Unfit Mother attacks. I could only find three references, but there are hundreds of references where Democrats, both significant and not, have claimed that Palin shouldn't be on the ticket, that she should stay home and take care of the kids..

OK, let's move on to Democrats attacking Palin's daughter for being underage and pregnant.

Barney Frank (D-MA) states that attacks on Palin's family are "fair game"..

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/politics/view/2008_09_02_Barney_Frank:_Sarah_Palin_s_family_life_is_fair_game/

At a town hall meeting in Johnstown, Pennsylvania on Saturday afternoon, Barack Obama told the crowd that he didn't want his daughters, "punished with a baby."

"But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby."
-Senator Obama

Michale.....

I also think that the implication you make that these viewpoints, as you describe them, have been expressed by Senator Obama or anyone involved in his campaign - or anyone else of any significance, for that matter, is a bunch of malarkey.

Take it away!

I can document it...

Before I do, let me ask you...

Do you agree with each action that I have listed??

Do you consider that these personal attacks are legitimate campaign issues??

Let me know and then we can go from there...

Michale.....

Oh, by the way...you have got to check out Obama's website...Joe Biden just finished up a live event in North Carolina that would knock your socks off...yes, YOUR socks!

I'll be back soon with a link! :-)

But we have Senator Obama who campaigned on a platform of CHANGE and NOT being a politician in the "same ol same ol" mode....

And yet, we see all his negative campaigning that seems to indicate otherwise...

I mean, seriously....

Look what we have seen coming out of the Obama campaign and/or coming from the Democrats of late...

1. The claim that a woman with 5 kids should worry about staying home and taking care of those kids and not being out in the workforce.

2. Pre marital sex is evil and anyone who partakes is immoral and should be vilified..

3. It's proper and even enjoyable to make fun of disabled people and the things they cannot do that other NORMAL people can do every day.

Sorry, but this is NOT the kind of garbage I have come to expect from Senator Obama. If this is how he will be running his campaign from now on, he has lost my vote and (probably) the vote of every independent who felt he was above that sort of crap..

Michale.....

Anyways, there is nothing safe or logical about choosing McCain, any which way you slice it.

I don't suppose you have been able to hear any of what Senator Biden has been pushing on the trail...now THERE is a candidate vehemently opposed to the politics of personal destruction and politics as usual. Joe Biden is a candidate for whom Independents of all political stripes should be lining up to support in droves.

I hate it when the Jags lose.. It depresses me the rest of the day...

Anyways, CHANGE is the ONLY thing that can save the good old USA...

We need a NEW way of thinking, a NEW way of governing and a NEW way of politics...

If Obama is simply going to be "same ol same ol" (as is becoming apparent) then the independents and the middle of the road'ers will go with McCain..

It's really THAT simple....

McCain is the safer and more logical choice if it's going to be politics as usual.. The ONLY thing Obama had going for him is that he was NOT going to be politics as usual...

Which is why you are seeing Obama drop in the polls... Which is why you will see Obama to continue to drop in the polls if he continues on the politics of personal destruction..

People like me don't care what Bush has done to us in the past. We don't CARE what McCain has done to us in the past..

WE care about what Obama is going to do for us in the future... If Obama's response to that is to simply state how bad McCain screwed up in the past?? Well, that speaks volumes about what Obama will do in the future.

Nothing....

Michale......

I am sick and tired about hearing about CHANGE! I just want America back on the right track and fast.

Gotta go watch the Blue Jays lose...shouldn't take long.

My point is that Obama should not tear down McCain, but rather build Obama up..

Tearing down your opponent is going negative. Independents are tired of negative campaigns.. That is why Obama was so popular amongst Independents..

And THAT is why Obama is failing amongst Independents these days..

In other words, the ONLY thing that Obama has going for him is that he is CHANGE..

He hasn't looked much like CHANGE the last couple weeks..

And THAT is why he is falling behind...

Because if Obama ain't CHANGE, then McCain is the better choice for President.

It's THAT simple...

Back at Half Time...

Michale.....

Moving on...are you equating "going on the attack" as meaning employing the same tactics that the McCain and his camp have been using, then I think you may mistake what "going on the attack" is all about. Surely you are not suggesting that Obama not fight for this election, are you? Of course, you aren't.

So, my point? Obama needs to attack on the issues, shed some light on the truth and expose McCain for being bereft of viable ideas and workable solutions to the major challenges that face America and for resorting to a campaign of dishonor.

Frankly, I am beginning to think that the country doesn't deserve the quality leadership that they would get from an Obama/Biden administration, anyway. It's probably just a phase I'm going through right now but I'm just about ready to cut off my nose to spite my face! And, if the media and blogosphere continue to ignore and dismiss Biden as they both did so blatently during the early primary process, then I will learn to thrive living in spite.

Obama has proven time and time again that he doesn't do mud very well.. But ya'all are proposing he gets in the mud with the very group that INVENTED mud??

Again, I have to ask...

Why do you want Obama to go negative? For him? So he can win the election??

Or for ya'all, to give ya'all the satisfaction of seeing the GOP attacked??

If Obama continues to go on the attack as he has been, he will continue to drop in the polls...

My brother once gave me financial advice that also applies very aptly in politics...

The first rule when you find yourself in a hole??

STOP DIGGING!!

Michale....

It seems I may have been in error regarding Murtha being part of the Keating 5..

After researching it this morning, I discovered that Murtha was ABSCAM, not Keating 5..

However, my initial point is still valid..

Here is why you don't see any Keating 5 attacks coming from the Democrats..

The KEATING 5

Alan Cranston (D-CA)
Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ)
John Glenn (D-OH)
John McCain (R-AZ)
Donald W. Riegle (D-MI)

Now, what jumps out at you in that list??

Yup... 4 Democrats and 1 Republican.

Now, imagine the GOP's response to an attack ad that brings up the Keating 5...

I think that Democrats (rightly or wrongly) are afraid to bring up the Keating 5 because it would be easy for the GOP to paint the entire Democratic Party with the brush of the 4 Democrats involved.

Especially when you consider that the Senate Ethics Committee cleared Glenn and McCain (American Heroes) of any wrong doing, but did claim they exercised "poor judgment". The remaining 3 Democrats were found to have "substantially and improperly" interfered with an investigation of the Lincoln Savings & Loan.

The reason that you won't see any substantial Keating 5 Attack ads is because it paints Democrats worse than Republicans.

That's my opinion..

Michale.....

Yep. That.

I swear I hadn't seen that story when I wrote this, but I was pretty happy to see it afterwards. Obama is FINALLY going on offense. And I don't count that silly "McCain can't send email" ad. This is the real deal. Let's hope it's just the first of many...

-CW

#2 This? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/12/obama-ad-calls-out-mccain_n_125995.html