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	<title>Comments on: PUMA -- Endangered Species</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BLaws -

I&#039;m busy busy busy writing up convention thoughts today (just posted the first one, but there will be multiple posts today, just to warn everyone), but just had to respond.

Your idea of a wager with Bill is quite possibly the finest idea I have heard in the entire campaign to date.  I have long maintained that a big reason Gore and Kerry lost was they kept Bill in the box, and refused to use him on the campaign trail.

Anyway, gotta run...

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BLaws -</p>
<p>I'm busy busy busy writing up convention thoughts today (just posted the first one, but there will be multiple posts today, just to warn everyone), but just had to respond.</p>
<p>Your idea of a wager with Bill is quite possibly the finest idea I have heard in the entire campaign to date.  I have long maintained that a big reason Gore and Kerry lost was they kept Bill in the box, and refused to use him on the campaign trail.</p>
<p>Anyway, gotta run...</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: BLaws</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Loslobo

Yeah, but someone else said it on Monday, maybe Pat or Joe.

@Myself

Guess I was wrong.  Bill Clinton went farther than I could have expected.  I figured at best he&#039;d just barely brush over an endorsement.  But he not only said it, he said it many times, in every possible way you could think of and I have to believe he meant it.

Bill Clinton has two tells for when he&#039;s being dishonest or saying something he doesn&#039;t really feel strong about.  One is he will look down as he says it.  He won&#039;t look people in the eye while he says the line he doesn&#039;t believe.  The second is he&#039;ll start wagging his finger heavily.  Not just pointing but drawing attention to his finger not his face. He did neither.

After the roaring crowd cheered for him for 5.5 minutes, I got the impression his hurt feelings went away.  There was talk before the speech that they were worried he might actually get booed.

I hope they put Bill out on the trail.  He&#039;s so competative that I bet if Obama made a friendly wager with him on win margins in rural counties he&#039;d be out there in force like he was for Hillary.  Talk is he would gloat about how Hillary got higher votes in areas he campaigned in than in areas she did.  He is super competative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Loslobo</p>
<p>Yeah, but someone else said it on Monday, maybe Pat or Joe.</p>
<p>@Myself</p>
<p>Guess I was wrong.  Bill Clinton went farther than I could have expected.  I figured at best he'd just barely brush over an endorsement.  But he not only said it, he said it many times, in every possible way you could think of and I have to believe he meant it.</p>
<p>Bill Clinton has two tells for when he's being dishonest or saying something he doesn't really feel strong about.  One is he will look down as he says it.  He won't look people in the eye while he says the line he doesn't believe.  The second is he'll start wagging his finger heavily.  Not just pointing but drawing attention to his finger not his face. He did neither.</p>
<p>After the roaring crowd cheered for him for 5.5 minutes, I got the impression his hurt feelings went away.  There was talk before the speech that they were worried he might actually get booed.</p>
<p>I hope they put Bill out on the trail.  He's so competative that I bet if Obama made a friendly wager with him on win margins in rural counties he'd be out there in force like he was for Hillary.  Talk is he would gloat about how Hillary got higher votes in areas he campaigned in than in areas she did.  He is super competative.</p>
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		<title>By: loslobo</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris

Did you hear Mike Murphy say tonight on MSNBC that Hillary and Bill will in the secrecy of the voting booth vote for McCain. Man what balls...</description>
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<p>Did you hear Mike Murphy say tonight on MSNBC that Hillary and Bill will in the secrecy of the voting booth vote for McCain. Man what balls...</p>
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		<title>By: BLaws</title>
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		<dc:creator>BLaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CW

Sorry, I have to disagree with the &quot;perfectly&quot; comment.  Because she didn&#039;t address the most important part that she should have addressed... that Obama is qualified and ready to lead.   She never once said it... I was watching for it.

With McCain running her previous comments on the very subject (you know, &quot;and Obama had a speech in 2002&quot;), she needed to say that, because that is the very argument the PUMA&#039;s are using to cover themselves.   That he doesn&#039;t have the experience and ability to be president and she didn&#039;t disagree.

All she told them was that he shared her positions, and that we needed a Democrat, not that he was capable of being President.  It&#039;s almost as if she was saying &quot;it&#039;s so important that we have a democrat that I&#039;d support Joe Shmoe as long as they had a D by their name.

The chattering class and McCain camp are already harping on this, and I guarantee you that the PUMA&#039;s will use this as their excuse.  And frankly Hillary knows it.  I just don&#039;t buy her being sincere.  With Begala and Rendel with their rediculous comments spreading drama, I just see this as her doing what she has to in order to avoid blame, but still undermine him.

I&#039;m betting you won&#039;t see Bill Clinton say it either, even after the news running with his limp response to the question while in Africa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CW</p>
<p>Sorry, I have to disagree with the "perfectly" comment.  Because she didn't address the most important part that she should have addressed... that Obama is qualified and ready to lead.   She never once said it... I was watching for it.</p>
<p>With McCain running her previous comments on the very subject (you know, "and Obama had a speech in 2002"), she needed to say that, because that is the very argument the PUMA's are using to cover themselves.   That he doesn't have the experience and ability to be president and she didn't disagree.</p>
<p>All she told them was that he shared her positions, and that we needed a Democrat, not that he was capable of being President.  It's almost as if she was saying "it's so important that we have a democrat that I'd support Joe Shmoe as long as they had a D by their name.</p>
<p>The chattering class and McCain camp are already harping on this, and I guarantee you that the PUMA's will use this as their excuse.  And frankly Hillary knows it.  I just don't buy her being sincere.  With Begala and Rendel with their rediculous comments spreading drama, I just see this as her doing what she has to in order to avoid blame, but still undermine him.</p>
<p>I'm betting you won't see Bill Clinton say it either, even after the news running with his limp response to the question while in Africa.</p>
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