You have to wonder how much the Hearst Family ...ahem... "donated" to the Clinton Presidential Library.... :^/

Do we REALLY want 4 more years of Clinton??

Michale.....

While I hate to help you make your case, I absolutely love trivia and sometimes just can't help myself! I recently came across a piece of trivia that would back up the article you just posted: Bill Clinton also pardoned Patty Hearst.

-CW

Michale.....

Hillary involved whatsoever would be a very VERY bad thing...

Besides, I honestly don't think her ego would allow her to play second fiddle to Obama...

As for Rove, I respect him the way I respect a rattlesnake. Come to think of it, for the same reason, too. They both have a vicious bite!

Exactly... If you don't respect something, you can be assured that said something will come around and bite you on the arse...

Michale.....

While I wouldn't bet the farm on it at this point, Obama/Clinton v. McCain/Huckabee looks like a reasonable guess. But choosing a VP is always kind of a wild card (remember Dan Quayle?), so we'll see... we'll see....

As for Rove, I respect him the way I respect a rattlesnake. Come to think of it, for the same reason, too. They both have a vicious bite!

-CW

Clinton has clearly not respected the capabilities of Obama.. And look where that has gotten her...

You confuse "respect" with "admire".....

Michale.....

When you respect something such as that, you are better able to combat it..

Hitler's oratory capabilities are worthy of respect because only by respecting your enemies capabilities, are you capable of defeating your enemy.

By simply writing someone off as "slime" or "disgusting" one would tend to fall into the trap of underestimating one's opponent..

As far as Rove and his mind, it looks like Clinton et al are following Rove's playbook page for page...

Why is that??

Michale.....

That's not a compliment, in case anyone has doubts...

Obama is appealing to me BECAUSE he is not a political animal..

By my way of thinking, Obama is Jack Ryan without the National Security expertise...

Michale.....

[Note from CW: This comment has been edited to fix the link. My comment code isn't very link-friendly, sorry! Nothing else has been edited.]

I have to admit, I am feeling pretty good about finally sweeping one day's field with my picks for the first time. On the Republican side, I see Huckabee as (maybe) winning VA, MD, TX, KY, NC, and MS. However, I still see McCain winning the nomination. On the Democratic side, Hillary really needs to win Maine today. She needs to slow down Obama's momentum, or else he might win either TX or OH next month. I like your slogan for Obama, because it can be used both in the primary and against McCain in the general.

-CW

Ahhh.. So you are not using the point as a slam against McCain, but rather as pointing out the difference between McCain and the GOP.. I don't think pointing that difference out helps Democrats. I think it might actually make McCain more appealing to conservative Democrats...

Point 2...

Of course it's not "OK"... But the opposite is a lot more NOT ok...
Would we be infallible?? Of course not.. But let's look at the stakes... If we are wrong, an innocent man is inconvenienced, made extremely uncomfortable and will probably feel bad for a while.. If we are right, we prevent the wholesale slaughter of innocent men, women and children.. It's a no-brainer.. But the question wasn't about a grey area situation.... If you have a bona-fide terrorist and the only way to stop him from killing tens of thousands of innocent men women and children is to waterboard him, would you do it???

"Hell, yes. Drop that fucker. Twice!
Gene Hackman - Crimson Tide

Michale.....

See Talking Point #2. You're right, I probably shouldn't have said "questioned McCain" in the first bit, more "called attention to McCain's stance." It was inarticulate writing, I admit. But that doesn't mean Democrats can't make political hay over the issue. It's the perfect "wedge" issue right now -- because the GOP nominee is not where the GOP base is on the issue. Pointing that out just helps Democrats.

As for your second point, I'm going to see "Taxi To The Dark Side" as soon as I can, which is about a taxi driver (not a terrorist) who was tortured to death by Americans. That's the whole point -- what if we get it wrong? What if we torture not "a terrorist" but "someone we think is a terrorist" and we're just flat-out wrong? Is that OK with you?

As for pimp-gate, I admit I haven't really followed the story. I do agree that while I support a blanket rule of "kids of politicians are off-limits to write about," the only exception to that rule is when they themselves are in the public sphere, campaigning or lobbying, or whatever.

But I also agree the guy should have been fired. Not so much for making a stupid comment in the first place, as for refusing to apologize after the fact. So he got what he deserved. "Pimp" is over the line of propriety for political commentary. Unless, you know, someone is actually running a cathouse somewhere.

-CW

Does ANYONE have a problem with waterboarding terrorists in an effort to save innocent men, women and children??

A simple YES or NO will suffice....

On another note, I would like to ask people's opinions about the Chelsea's PIMP-GATE...

On the one hand, I can see how any parent would go ballistic at the word "pimp" used in the same sentence as their daughter..

However, the fact that the Hillary campaign puts their daughter out there to work on the campaign, but doesn't "allow" reporters to talk to her is outrageous...

Imagine the outcry if the Hillary campaign were to say, "Yes, my husband, Bill, is out there campaigning for me, but you can't interview him..."

Granted, MOST of the outcry would be from Bill himself, but still...

Chelsea is NOT a Clinton daughter in this case. She is simply another adult working on the Clinton campaign and, as such, is fair game for the media...

The turn of the phrase could have been a little more diplomatic, but the reasoning behind it is sound..

That's my opinion... What's yours???

Michale.....

Iddn't it amazing how we always find ourselves at odds over this issue, eh CW?? :D

I guess it's a credit to our respective outlooks that we don't let this one issue dictate our actions, eh? Many people can take a lesson from that.

In any case, I seem to recall a certain liberal commentator (Let's call him Chris W.... No no, that's too easy.. Let's call him C Weigant... :D) who praised McCain on his position against torture...

Michale.....