I just don't agree with it.. :D

Censorship is censorship, whether it is at a private function or a public one...

Censorship is more understandable at a private function, but that doesn't negate the fact that it still IS censorship...

Michale.....

No, the division for me is private vs. public. KOS can censor anybody they like if it's their meeting and they paid for the meeting space. So can the NRA, the Sierra Club, Jerry Falwell's university, the ACLU, or even the KKK. It doesn't bother me a bit, because if I don't approve, then I can just choose not to support that organization. It can even be argued that this is not even "censorship" per se, but the free right of assembly.

But when the Government (in the form of a public event paid for by MY TAX DOLLARS that is supposed to be open to the public WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION) arrests someone for tresspassing because of a non-obscene message on a T-shirt... well, that is indeed censorship and must be denounced loudly by anyone who cares about the first amendment.

Private groups censoring people doesn't get me all that worked up. But the government doing the same thing raises my hackles. And that would be true no matter who is in charge of the government. If I heard Clinton did the same thing, I would denounce it just as strongly.

There's no right or left about it for me. There's the bill of rights, and that's it.

-CW

Sorry, but I just can't seem to get too upset at Bush's "censorship" when KOS won't even let an active duty soldier speak at one of their gatherings about the REAL situation in IRAQ...

So, what ya'all are saying is that censorship from the RIGHT is bad, nasty, evil...

Yet censorship from the left is justified and perfectly OK...

Uh huh.... Gotcha... :D

Michale.....

The ACLU, not too surprisingly, favorably cited this article on their website.

Check it out.

-CW

I think the answer to that would be "anybody but Stallone!" The whole deal with Judge Dredd was that he NEVER takes off his helmet - all you ever see of him is his chin. More than picking Stallone, that's what disappointed people who knew the comic - the fact that Sly took the helmet off...

-CW

Yea, I stepped on my wee-wee with that one, for sure.. :D

As far as your buddy being mortified?? Who would he have preferred?

Michale.....

And Michale, the Justice Department is currently triangulating your location in MegaCity One. You have been charged with misspelling a Judge's name. 6 months in the cubes for you, or until you can spell Dredd's name correctly, creep!!

(Heh heh. I got a buddy who collects "2000AD," the British comic that Judge Dredd is from... and who was mortified, by the way, when Stallone got picked for the role in the film.)

-CW

This doesn't seem to be just a BUSH issue or a GOP issue.. As MG points out, it has been going on for decades, whether it's a Republican or a Democrat in the White House.

The problem is the attitude of the institution of the Presidency.. The old I AM DA LAW (Stallone, JUDGE DREAD) mentality..

Michale.....

While reprehensible, this is nothing new. The USSS has been ordering local law enforcement to do this for decades (arrest individuals for trespassing, disorderly conduct, etc, just to drop the charges later). Many times, those arrested are too poor to afford a lawyer and are content that the charges are dropped.

The Dept. of Justice "settling" out of court is to be expected, but truly, as you point out, they are paying the settlement out of our tax dollars. In effect, you and I (along with every other tax paying American) just paid for the Departments illegal and unconstitutional behavior (which won't change btw).